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Hi Ryu

I run HdBrStreamExtractor from within the eac3to253 folder but when I load the folder with my blu ray rip files in it it doesn't read them at all? Am I missing certain files needed to make it run properly?

Cheers
Mark

 

Define "Blu-ray rip files"?

The HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor should work when pointed at the Blu-ray folder on your hard drive. That is the folder that contains the "CERTIFICATE" and "BDMV" folders, not the actual "BDMV" folder but the folder one step above.

1) Run HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor and Navigate to Blu-ray root folder.
2) Press the "Features" button.
3) Highlight the playlist (xxxxx.mpls) that corresponds to the main movie (the application will analyze for a short time).
4) Demux/extract streams as desired.

 

Hi Ryu

Aha I thought the Features was a Hyperlink like the eac3to link is so I never clicked that.

Excellent so now I have read the contents and am presented with 12 mpls files. 11 of the 12 all say that they are 1 hour 38 minutes long and one says it's 24 minutes. So how do I now determine which is the correct mpls file to demux? This is the Wall-E blu ray disc and the film has been split over dozens of m2ts files hence I couldn't use my normal method of just demuxing the largest m2ts file.

Thanks again mate.

 

In fact Ryu I'm having difficulty in extracting any of the mpls files. When highlighting one and clicking the Extract button it keeps on saying this:



Yet I've already retrieved the stream haven't I?

 

It appears from your photo that the playlist (mpls) files are not pointing to any valid M2TS streams. They are all listed as 0.m2ts which is not a standard Blu-ray file name. Do any of them have a 5 digit M2TS file next to them like 00001.m2ts? When you do find a valid playlist files, you will be presented with a list of elementary streams in the window below. It is there that you will be able to extract the streams.

I have never come across the problem you have now. It could be that movie is authored in a different manner.

 

I have processed Wall-E, it's a typical Disney seamless branching title... several smaller m2ts files, maybe 15 or so of them. Eac3to alone handles it just fine, it might be a problem with the GUI.

@lionelb

You may want to try demuxing the streams manually through command prompt. Try this... first you need to type the exact location of eac3to... see below what your command might look like.

Typing this will give the track listings of the first MPLS file of the main movie... which is the one I used.

To demux you need to continue off the above command. It may looks something like this:

Below is an example of a movie I just processed recently (not Wall-E), it give track listings, notice my command line. First is where eac3to's location on my PC is, second (F is my BD/HDDVD drive, third (1)) is the main movie, fourth (2: .... 3: .... 6: .... 9: ....) are the specific tracks I demuxed and their exact destinations, which are on my C: drive.

BTW, since it is a complex authoring it will take longer than usual to demux.

 

Hi Ryu/Odin

Firstly Ryu if I select the dropdown under files then I do see the complete list of m2ts files. Tried selecting one of them and then hitting extract but still the same message.

Odin I tried using the command line you gave and got this returned:



So it reads everything fine but then comes back that the video conversion is not supported.

 

Ah have just noticed that 5: is my hd audio stream, not 4: as I used in the last command. Have changed the command and it now seems to be running for longer than before.

Fingers crossed

 

It'll look like it's not doing anything (it's thinking) then when it starts the demuxing you'll get a little progress indicator along the bottom.

When it's all finished you can remux everything using tsMuxeR. If you kept the DTS HD-MA stream tsMuxeR does not recognize the ".dtshd" extension, you need to either drag it to the "input files" section or use the dropdown when adding and choose "All Files (*)", then the .dtshd file will appear and you can choose it.

I hope you're not using eac3to v2.53, it's fairly outdated... a lot more features have been implemented since. Go here (v3.07) for the latest version.

 

Brilliant it's all demuxing niceley now!

Yes I am using an old version of eac3, have just grabbed the newer version.

Thanks Odin, thanks Ryu

 

Ok guys seems there's one more hurdle to overcome!

What do you say to this message about gap overlay at the end of demuxing?



What I would be doing normally is creating an m2ts containing just the video file as I load the audio stream separately in TMPGEnc when I convert the files. If I go ahead with the files as they are now will my audio be out of sync with the video?

Cheers

 

Sorry for double post, seems you can edit existing posts on here. Here's the screenshot this time:

 

Yeah, you should re-run or there will be sync issues, especially with that many branches. If you push the "arrow up" key it should display your most recent command, this way you don't need to type everything again.

 

So by simply running the same command again it will fix itself?

If that's the case why doesn't it do it first time round? I've almost finished converting the lot into wmv9, the sound and video track lengths were only different by about 0.1 of a second. Being an animated film I though I might get away with just a few milliseconds of audio out of sync, as after all there's no human lips to see and get bugged by if it is out!

If it does turn out to be unwatchable then I'll run through eac3to twice next time.

Cheers

 

Sounds good. There may not be a sync issue, however you may notice "broken" sound for a millisecond, or crackling at the branching points... if you do it's because the second pass was not applied.

When you watch it keep an ear open for these issues. Remember, you posted here the exact points where the issues could occur.

 

Ryu77,

I am trying to make sure I stay updated on your profile. There are a lot of old links floating around (like at the bottom of your posts and on your profile )... Is the guide you posted in October the latest edition? Where can I go to make sure I have your most recent x264 profile for megui?

Thanks

 

Those links at the bottom of my posts and my profile are current as they link to the cover page of both these threads. In regards to the profiles, the link on the cover page of this thread is for the most recent.

I am in the process of doing some extensive testing and I PM'd one of the x264 developers for assistance in refining the settings for those that want the absolute very best quality with encoding time not really much of a concern. Also, as x264 further develops, new options also get added. So, this means I need to update the profiles respectively.

Edit: I just uploaded updated profiles. I have now included multiple profiles for different quality levels. Please see the first page of this thread for the download link. Warning!! The "Insane Quality" profiles are extremely slow. This profile has turbo disabled so I am referring to an encode about 4 or 5 times as long as previous. I would not recommend using this option unless you are prepared to sacrifice a lot of time for very minimal gains.

Note: These profiles are right in the middle of experimentation stage so it's quite possible that things will be changed soon. I am mainly interested in speed vs. quality and the effects "turbo" has on this variable.

 

Hi again Ryu77 and odin24,

I was searching for an answer to this problem, I see the original poster (ADIDAScsu) never followed up on this issue. I am having the same problem on one of my Blu-Ray discs (WALL-E NTSC). Here is the Media Raw info for the video file in question. Please note that it has been extracted from the source Blu-Ray disc then put into .mt2s format by itself (no audio).


General #0
ID : 1
Complete name : Z:\BluRay\2nd attempt\pre mux\premux.m2ts
Format : BluRay Video
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 16.7 GiB

Video #0
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID : 1 (0x1)
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec profile : High@L4.1
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 1080 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive


I am a bit confused because under the "General" section the "Format/Family" is listed as MPEG-2 but under the video section the codec is listed as MPEG-4. Why is this? Also the Chroma is 4:2:0 which is YV12... is this standard for Blu-Ray or should it be 4:2:2 (YUV)?

MeGUI (AVI Synth Script Creator) tells me that the input DAR (ratio) for this video file is 1.765 which just happens to be 1920/1088.

To summarize, my main questions here are:

1. What colorspace options can be used when creating Blu-Ray compatible video, and of those options which will yield the greatest quality?

2. Why is MeGUI telling me I have the wrong colorspace and prompting me to "convert" to YV12 before encoding begins?

3. Will converting to YV12 yield a higher quality output than not converting to YV12... which one should I pick when the error occurs?

4. Why does Media Raw tell me that this files dimensions are 1920 x 1080 when the Input DAR (ratio) is listed as 1.765 (same as 1920 x 1088)?

Sorry to be so long winded, just wanted to get all the info out there I am currently experimenting encoding this video exactly how MeGUI (AVI Synth Script Creator) perceives it (Input DAR 1.765) just to see what happens. Any input would be appreciated… Thanks in advanced.

 

This is referring to the container format, which is part of the MPEG2 family (M2TS=MPEG2 Transport Stream). The elementary video stream (AVC/h264) is part of the MPEG4 family (MPEG4 part 10) In regards to the colorspace, 4:2:0 subsampling is used by YV12 and is the standard for AVC (h264).

x264 encodes in YV12.

I have no idea why this happens. I create my own scripts manually and I never encounter this. It could be a conflict of your direct show filters. Would you describe these as messy? If they are, you may benefit from a clean up.

You shouldn't need to as the original and the output should already be YV12.

I wouldn't take that as correct. We know that BD is encoded at 1920 x 1080. You can also take reassurance in the fact MediaInfo also displays this.

 

I would describe them as messy I have used ACE mega codec pack for a long time with no problem until .MKV's started showing up all over. I downloaded CCCP and installed it on top of ACE so I could view .MKV's. What do you recommend for filters? Should I remove these programs and reinstall just one of them? How do I ensure that the filters in question are gone for sure (to ensure no conflict)?

If I am to trust Media Raw and Media Info as you suggest, is it still important to make the input DAR 1.778 as the guide suggests? I don't understand why MeGUI (AVI Synth Script Creator) would get this figure incorrect since the calculation seems pretty simple.

Thanks for your fast reply!