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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.

Discussion in 'Blu-ray players' started by Ryu77, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. odin24

    odin24 Regular member

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    Here's something interesting I stumbled on to... Last night while half way through the second pass on a recode my PC was shut down on accident. After the reboot I was able to start the second pass over again bypassing the first pass... and the first pass' status was still "done", second pass's status was "waiting".

    The recode has finished and the results are what I expected them to be... amazing.

    FYI Ryu77, I used your High profile at about 6.5-7mb/s... I know you reccomended using Ultra for anything lower than 8mb/s... but the results are still pretty phenomenal.

    EDIT: Once rebooted I'm pretty sure MeGUI automatically launched... I cannot remember for sure though.
     
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  2. odin24

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    Looks like as of a few revisions ago MeGUI now uses EAC3TO and HDBDstreamExtractor. I'd give it a whirl but I'm encoding right now.
     
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    I just tried this... it works great... easy to use. Eac3to is used for demuxing, even a log is created so you can see how everything went down... once it is complete.
     
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    I tried MeGUI and it said it was was going to take 3 days to do a standard blu-ray encode that normally takes 20 hours using TMPGEnc Express 4.0!

    Because of this I'm back to TMPGEnc which is a shame as I hear good things about MeGUI.
     
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    Is there anything else besides BDrebuilder to encode Blu Ray disk?
     
  7. Ryu77

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    MeGUI can also be calibrated to encode at the same speed as TMPGEnc XPress 4.0 but the quality of MeGUI + x264 is far superior. If you like I can set-up a faster profile for MeGUI/x264 and upload it for you.

    What encoder and output settings are you using with TMPGEnc? You are using the Main Concept AVC encoder, right?


    Is this a trick question?

    How about MeGUI, RipBot264, Nero Recode, TMPGEnc XPress 4.0... etc. All of which have been discussed on this thread. For download links visit the first page of this thread.
     
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  8. Ryu77

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    It would be better if MeGUI could utilise EAC3to's decoding/encoding facilities. I am sure this will come with time also. At least I don't need to worry about updating EAC3to manually for the HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor anymore. :)
     
  9. odin24

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    It does utilize decoding/encoding... as long as you have the proper filters/encoders installed. I just did a HDDVD to BD convert, I used MeGUI to demux... Nero was used for the E-AC3 decoding... and Aften for the encoding.
     
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    Oh, I didn't even bother trying... Have you tried DTS encoding yet? Can it call on the Surcode DTS encoder for DTS encoding?

    Knowing me, I will still probably do everything manually. I have trust issues! :p
     
  11. odin24

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    Arcsoft is automatically called upon... however one thing I found interesting. When demuxing a DTS HD-MA track you have option... about 10 different audio formats to demux/transcode to, two of them being DTSHD and DTS... both of which had the same effect; demuxed the DTS HD-MA track... doh!

    So I then tried transcoding the BD structure to AC3, that worked... Arcsoft called. But I'm not satisfied yet... I want DTS @ 1536kb/s.

    There is a field next to the "Extract As" column called "Options"... with no options! I figured out you must double click and enter whatever switches you need, i.e. -1536 for DTS legacy... so a noob friendly app has become an "intermediate eac3to experience required" app... you need to know eac3to and a few of it's basic switches. Once I did that the whole process started... extract to wavs... Surcode called... and away we go! I haven't got this far yet, but I have a feeling the "Zero Padding" will still need to be removed... it cannot be done with MeGUI though... it only takes Structures or m2ts/evo files as input, not raw streams.

    Somehow I believe the MeGUI developer will include some switches in the near future, and possibly raw streams as inputs.

    EDIT: Yup, the zero padding still needs removing.

    Here's the DTSHD to DTS conversion log using MeGUI/eac3to... for your own reassurance :) I think you can trust MeGUI and eac3to, now the best pair since peanut butter & jam... or peas and carrots ;) It's the same thing for demuxing... exactly like you'd normally see working with eac3to CLI, and a eac3to log is always created in the working folder.

     
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    :)
     
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    The zero padding is ~26 kb/s... which makes sense, some DTS tracks I see at 1536k, some @ 1509k. Anyway, in order to make tsMuxeR compatible DTS tracks zero padding need to be removed... which MeGUI cannot handle yet. Another way I found... before I knew that eac3to can do this, I used to mux the DTS track to mka, then demux which worked as well.

    eac3to CLI:

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    eac3to c:\audio.dts c:\audio_fixed.dts
    I don't think the fixed output must be *_fixed.dts, just something different than the input track.
     
  14. Ryu77

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    After I read a couple posts over at Doom9, it refreshed my memory about zero padding again which is why I edited my previous post. 1509 Kbit/s is the bitrate without the zero padding.

    Yes, you are right. The output DTS file can be anything other than the original file name.
     
  15. 1gkar

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    Ryu77,

    Thanks for your great encode profiles: I would be lost without them.

    What would be the highest bitrate, using your *BD5/BD9 good quality profile, to encode an older BD movie (mid-1980s & earlier) to at 720P? I'm asking as I have a relatively slow machine & the full 1080P encodes just take take a loooong time. Will still use them for newer movies. Thanks.
     
  16. NexGen76

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    Hey guys got a question.....



    Okay i just got my BD burner early this week & i tried using BDrebuilder doing BD-25 full disc but the quality just isn't there using that program...So is there away to edit Blu-Ray disc contents to get it down to the BD-25 target range...I'm talking about editing BD-50...Cutting out stuff that isn't need like trailer,extras,& audio tracks etc(but i want to keep the menu)....So if i can avoid encoding i don't have too.Thxs
     
  17. odin24

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    Unless you go through BD-RB there is no was to keep the original menus and it's functionality. If you do go this way BD-RB will re-encode the movie.

    However, often the movie itself with one audio stream will fit on a BD-R 25GB without re-encoding, so if that's all you are going to keep there is no reason to keep the menu... unsless you want your disc to look pretty :) Also, the menu will take up precious space on the BD-R that could be used for video and audio.

    Using tsMuxeR you can still keep the original chapters, HD audio, and remux to Blu-ray, then burn using the bruning software that came with your drive. I do this myself, however most of the time I recode to DVD9... and keep HD audio in some cirumstances.
     
  18. crasher88

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    great thread learned alot but what I still can't understand is how can I just back up my BD movies all I want to do is back up the movie not the menues or special features. All I want to back up is the main movie file, all the associated audio files with the exceptions of director's commentary and what not, and the subtitles. Is there a program that can do that or a few programs that can do that with relative ease.
     
  19. jv6619

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    Hey everyone what's going on I have a question i really new to this ripping and decrypting deal so I need some pointers i downloded dvd decrypter and saw that is was no longer supported so I downloaded ANYdvd which rips the encryption once you insert the dvd It's the movie bolt for my kid, so I decided to run dvd decrypter and strted the process after anydvd did it's thing and 8% into the process I gt an error saying that the patch sector vob.1_02 file did not work so I pressed ok and it contnued does that mean that my movie is going to be missing that particular section? please help me out man !
     
  20. claymic

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    Hei
    If i used tsmuxer to creat a blu-ray structure with a mkv, resolution 1280x544, and burn in a bd-r, the ps3 wil play it well ? Or i have to convert again, for 1280x720, like i do to burn in dvd-r ? Thanks. I want to burn in bd-r, but only if i dont have to reconvert the files.
     

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