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The gerry1 thread

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by billybob, Oct 31, 2007.

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  1. billybob

    billybob Regular member

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    A few things.
    Im done with that fear crap, its time someone spoke up and they can just ban people one by one. Thats what they want, their little friend group to have the whole of aD to themselves. Hell, they need some pathetic sense of power somewhere, may aswell be on the INTERNET!



    Ripper. Gerry wouldnt drop it because hes a good guy standing up for something he believed in, he wasnt someone to just "jump on the bandwagon" and help persecute the persectuted, brown nose the powers that be, and in every single post they make try and make some reference to the way in which they are friends with a moderator (like creaky) the way you do.

    Your a good lad jack, but im just gonna tell you straight, it seriously pisses me off the way you seemed to dislike Ireland, and had it in for Gerry too after i specifically asked you to back off him privately, because hes a great friend of mine. you still persevered in your petty little digs at him. Hes just the bigger man and rose above it, and i hope youll be happy when you have a permanent seat in creakys arse with your name tag on it, and there are no old timers left but the ones in your little power crazy group.

    Like popsmith said, he didnt start a new thread asking the same question because of a cloud of fear of being banned. Thats understandable. a bit like nazi germany, people didnt speak up because they were afraid. but there were also people who werent scared, they just enjoyed being manipulative and evil and ganging up on people, sheilded because you brown nosed your way into the powers that be.

    Im just speaking my mind about the things that have pissed me off recently ripper, and im sorry to say that your one of them.



    Auslander, i dont blame you. This sites gone downhill, but if you got my pm i hope i can keep it touch with you, because you were one of the people around when i started, who stayed true and stayed yourself.


    Guess this is goodbye, as no doubt ill be banned soon. Hey, back in the war, there used to be a firing squad of say....5 or 6 people, who would shoot the deserters. 2 of the shooters would have a gun that had a blank in it so they always had the peace of mind that it could NOT have been them who shot the person. Its sort of similar to the mods here, nobody ever knows who banned someone, only that it was the "moderating team", like it was the "firing squad".

    The people i have actually enjoyed spending time with at aD.

    Auslander, borhan9, cincyrob, DVDBack23, Estuansis, garmoon, greensman, ireland, Lethal_B, LOCOENG, MaxBurn, Nephilim, pepsimaxx, permiggs, Pop_Smith, rav009, Ripper, sammorris + GERRY1
    The guys in red especially, its a shame alot of you have gone.
    There are others too and you know who you are. keep fighting guys.

     
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  2. svtstang

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    And the violin continues to play
     
  3. morguex

    morguex Guest

    Hmmmmm, I just come to this site to talk and learn about various things, (computers, dvd burning, etc.).

    But this is getting a bit to serious, But this is how it starts.
     
  4. garmoon

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    How has it come to this? So many people leaving because of a managerial decision. Ireland's still here-an addict at that. Many good people have left and more threatening. They'll close this thread just like the others, and that's troubling, but understandable. Hell I don't know how many of my buddies will be left when the smoke clears. I've decided to stick it out for a while.

    Aus I really hate to see you wanting a break mainly because I see a lot of my young self in you, some 40 years ago. Come back and visit when you see fit.

    Billybob I feel your anger but let it go. Nothing good will come of it. And gerry would be the first one to say that.

     
  5. ZoSoIV

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    billybob

    I can tell you exactly why he was banned but after i did i would be banned to, being the powers that be in here don't like my straight in you're face attitude, so PM me and we can talk about it.

    The SV probably needs to go and make it a tech only forum since basically we all are posting here AT OUR OWN RISK and can be banned for anything , for any reason or no reason at all. this says it all in the rules here vvvvv

    Administrative actions

    Even if something isn't specifically mentioned in the rules, it doesn't mean that it would be permitted. It is up to the moderators and administrators to determine what is appropriate and what is not.


    something to think about^^^^^^

    good to see you Gerry!!
     
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  6. PacMan777

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    If you leave you'll be missed. As gerry mentioned, the testosterone has been a bit thick. Don't get caught up in that or you'll have to start shaving your lip. LOL I stopped playing Don Qiuxote some time ago (except when I can actually connect with the windmills). That's why I try to stay out of the contests. This is the net and not our website, we have no control, zilch, nada. So, there's nothing that can be done about anything. Once the forum becomes a democracy, then maybe we can vote. Until then ... don't hold your breath. ;)

    My thoughts on the Safety Valve.
    Close it...

    To the last of us, even the troublemakers, we come to the SV to socialize, whether positive or negative. Moderators would simply moderate and not chat if they didn't want to be involved. Some members like to make friends and chat while others like to get into mischief. It still boils down to wanting to interact in an online community. Anyone who has ever posted in SV is guilty. I don't see why members keep going once they've made their discontent with management clear. Then again I don't see why management bans members for not liking what they've said or done. That's like creating martyrs for the opposition.

    ... or leave it open.

    Under the original premise the SV was a good place to visit and socialize. It should have only 3 restrictions, no politics, no religion, and no flaming. Anyone not liking the contents of a thread that's already going should disagree peacefully or start their own thread. I don't think anything in the SV was intended to be constructive other than having a place for members to socialize on the site. Now that's in jeopardy.
     
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  7. Ripper

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    Thanks for the pep talk Joe. Let me tell it to you straight.

    I never had any time for ireland and Gerry & I hit it on and off. I didn't particularly like them and i think it's fair to say they particularly never liked me. I can be civil and I can be an bumhole, everyone knows that.

    In my humble opinion, Gerry was fighting for a lost cause and one that wasn't justified. This is the internet. If Gerry wants to be able to chat with ireland and/or post news and jokes everywhere, maybe they should consider setting up their own forum or getting Msn or such. How about that for an idea?
    Personally, I think standing up for what you believe in on the interent is pointless. Unless you own the site or are an influential part of it (ie, Moderator) then you either have to suck it up or leave, like Auslander said. They didn't choose either, so in turn, they've been forcefully "eivcted" so to speak. That's how it goes. This is the internet.

    And I think you're confusing brown nosing for having a like minded opinion on certain members/things @ AfterDawn. It's not like I haven't had my fair share of run ins with ddp and creaky but the fact I don't go on a rampage and disrespect them afterwards is why maybe they have little respect for me too.

    Oh and while we're on the topic of brown nosing, it makes me sick to see everyone flock around after ireland in the way they did/do.

    "Oh ireland, i'll humour your joke because it'll make you happy"

    "Oh ireland, thanks for the sig i'm only going to put up for under a week just so you feel you didn't waste the 10 seconds you spent making it"

    The list goes on. Sure, you'll probably hate me for saying this, but that's up to you. I like you, I think we have a lot in common and I enjoy chatting on Msn about the real world but if you want to lose it with me over a forum, the feel free to do so.

    I've got to leave for school now, but if I find anything else I'd like to add, then I'll edit accordingly.

    Have a GREAT day everyone.
     
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  8. gwendolin

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    Maybe we should change the title of the S/V to this:

    Safety Valve.Enter at your own risk!!

    OJ.....I try to stay out of the S/V and I am too old now to get into disputes...especially ones relating to the Internet.
     
  9. creaky

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    Good post. Seems even gerry1 doesn't want to see the "bickering" continue on the forums. Only his name is gone anyway. ZigZag or whatever is still with us. LOL Will he be allowed back as gerry1 or will he need to be gerry2? ;) These name changes are starting to confuse me. I need a program to keep up.
     
  11. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    First things first....the SV is going no where.

    I think it might be a good idea to leave this one open to get everything off our chests and I won't be banning anyone as long as we manage to keep the debate civil. Looks like no one is happier than when they are bitching.

    Anyone who has spent any time at all on AD knows that the SV has always been a place of danger and intrigue. You have to enter with thick skin and be ready for battle or to just have a good time, but at the same time you have to know when to draw the line. While I agree with creaky that the chat threads are pretty useless, but I don't see a problem with them and usually post fairly heavily in them myself....they just don't phase me. I think it is a good way to get to know other members of the site.

    Being in a new position here I didn't realize how difficult it would be to deal with the people who I was once on an even keel with and it saddens me to see some of them drop to the side of the road. So far though I'm enjoying it and I hope that the friends here don't think I'm a different person....that seems to keep cropping up for some reason. I'm the same loco LOCO, but I have been given and opportunity and a job to do here and I will do it to the best of my ability. With as many members as AD has, there will never be a decision made that will make every single poster happy....

    Anyway I want to share a snippet from a PM from a very respected Addict who shall remain anonymous....

    This was inspirational to me and I hope someone here finds some truth in it.
     
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    Things are a bit different. You've not changed much, but you are the man with the power now. Some people have authority issues. In the past those who didn't like what you said could complain to the mods. Now they have to complain to you. I hope you manage to keep your sunny disposition. ;) I'll take my chances and treat you the way I always have. Keep up the good work.
     
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  13. bbmayo

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    Well Well Well,

    I'm gone for a little while and look what is happening around here. This really stinks :-( I used to love coming to this sight I mean I would come here regularly everyday for about two years straight. I have still been lurking and reading a lot just not posting to much, but I felt I had to post here for some reason, and I for the life of me can't figure out why? Other than to just say to all parties involved in this debacle were all good people and friends to some extent. It bothers me because there really isn't a side to take on this one because I have grown to respect and admire most involved. Gerry1 was always one you could count on. Auslander awesome person, Creaky we have always been bud's from when he first joined, Ripper and I have had some disagreements on here that is true, but we always worked them out like grown ups do :), Ireland going to miss him. There are others in all of this that I am forgetting, but the point here is everyone wants to blame the new guys here at AD and how they are bringing it down, but in all actuality is not the newbie’s at all, but us old timers that are doing the most damage to this sight. There used to be a time (not to long ago) when all of us seniors and addicts stuck together and if there were a problem we would solve it through PM's. Not anymore now everyone just attacks each other right in the forum for all to see. As seniors and Addicts I feel it should be our responsibility to rise above this and act like mature adults. We should be promoting a much friendlier atmosphere here at AD and looked up to and admired, but that isn't happening. Now people are just posting useless post to get there post count up so they can be a senior member. I have a lot more to vent, but I will leave that for another time as I am not the best at expressing my thoughts in writing and not sure if anyone really gets where I may be coming from with any of this, but it just down right blows that this is happening here at AD and I keep lurking around hoping it will change, but I am afraid it will never change (I hope I am wrong).

    Also just so you everyone knows I had left AD because I was getting to hot and heavy into it with another Addict and if I would have stayed it most likely would have lead to my demise. I can say his name now I believe because I don’t see him around here anymore and most old timers know about it anyway. Scubapete and I where getting into it pretty hot and heavy about a year ago, and I for the life of me couldn’t figure out where he was coming from? I mean when I first came to AD Pete was the first person I had talked with and grew to admire and respect (and still do) I hold no ill feelings or grudges towards Pete whatsoever, but I guess what got me the most about it was that here was a person with whom I respected and considered a friend all of a sudden attacking me. When I got to AD Pete was already an Addict and at that time I really thought that meant something I mean I really thought that guy was God and knew everything (he did know a lot). Anyway I bet most newbie’s that come to this sight feel the same way at first (just think back to when you were newbie’s) that these guys are Addicts and Seniors they must really know there stuff only to see some of the junk being written around here. It ruins your credibility as a person. The whole reason behind this sight is to help others not tear people down, if there is a disagreement please do it in a PM I for one am really tired of seeing all the mud slinging going on around here.

    Cheers all :)
     
  14. Ripper

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    I'm 15, but nevertheless bbmayo, you're a very knowledgeable member of these forums and one that I both respect and look upon as just that, a very knowledgeable member that I respect. :)

    Anyway, I've said enough on this topic. Gerry, I'm sorry. Bilybob, I'll talk to you on Msn. Brandon, I know you won't be gone for good, you love me too much.

    Cya round the forums people.

     
  15. billybob

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    Look. I meant everything i said in the post u replied to.
    But likewise, we get on off the forum and i think your a good kid (not patronising you, i just use that word for people my age too, as i too am a "kid"), or at least you have the potential to be one. You just need to choose your route.

    Im dropping the whole thing for now though, as gerry told me too.
     
  16. ZeroHour

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    why does it matter??? he made a new account... mods have their reasons to do what they do... besides this is just a web site and there should not be so much drama on a electronic forum web site
     
  17. ddp

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    CAN IT!!!! lets talk about something different like how many kids came to your house for halloween. i had about a dozen so we'll be eating candy & chips for a little while.
     
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    cheers ddp, i was just saying to Loco, i've had it round here lately, i'm not going to keep wasting my time around these here parts, am getting my coat and leaving the building :)

    We (here in UK) had the ultimate Halloween treat last night, the original Halloween movie was on last night at 23:30, couldn't stay up for most of it but was happy to drift off to sleep shortly after hearing the scary music and some of the sound effects in the film; it's not really Halloween without that movie. Be interested to see how the 2007 remake compares as haven't seen it yet. I'll wager the music will never come close to the original John Carpenter score..
     
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  19. Ripper

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    Yay for ddp :D

    lol
     
  20. ddp

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    agreed as i'm getting a wee bit pissed about this & when i get pissed off then somebody is going to pay & it won't be me. this is a tech site everybody not a bitch site so if want to bitch then either do it off site or at least in pm's but not in public. we are here of our own free will to teach & learn about technology not about pettiness. do i make my self clear!!?
     
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