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The New AMD Building Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by theonejrs, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    I'm certain the later single core A64s were 1.4V...
     
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    Sam,
    I just pulled one out of my desk drawer (Clawhammer). It says 1.5v on it. As I remember, the Clawhammer and Newcastle were 1.50v, the Winchester was 1.40v, and the Venice was 1.35/1.40v. The processor number would tell us which it is! Wasn't there also a "Barton" core 3200+ in there somewhere too, for socket 939?

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    Exactly, and the Clawhammers were the early chips. I didn't even realise they made a 939 Clawhammer (or am I thinking Sledgehammer), I thought they were all 754s, but obviously they did.

    Afaik The Barton core was used exclusively Athlon XP and Sempron domain for Socket A. There was a Socket 939 Sempron, but I don't know that codename it has.
     
  4. Estuansis

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    K7 series (1999–2005)

    Mostly Socket A and Mobile Platforms
    * Athlon (Slot A) (Argon,Pluto/Orion,Thunderbird) (1999)
    * Athlon (Socket A) (Thunderbird) (2000)
    * Duron (Spitfire,Morgan,Applebred) (2000)
    * Athlon MP (Palomino,Thoroughbred,Barton,Thorton) (2001)
    * Mobile Athlon 4 (Corvette/Mobile Palomino) (2001)
    * Athlon XP (Palomino,Thoroughbred (A/B),Barton,Thorton) (2001)
    * Mobile Athlon XP (Mobile Palomino) (2002)
    * Mobile Duron (Camaro/Mobile Morgan) (2002)
    * Sempron (Thoroughbred,Thorton,Barton) (2004)
    * Mobile Sempron

    K8 series (2003–)

    Families: Opteron, Athlon 64, Sempron, Turion 64, Athlon 64 X2, Turion 64 X2

    Socket 754
    * Opteron (SledgeHammer) (2003)
    * Athlon 64 FX (SledgeHammer) (2003)
    * Athlon 64 (ClawHammer/Newcastle) (2003)
    * Mobile Athlon 64 (Newcastle) (2004)
    * Athlon XP-M (Dublin) (2004) Note: AMD64 disabled
    * Sempron (Paris) (2004) Note: AMD64 disabled

    Socket 939 and corresponding mobile platforms.
    * Athlon 64 (Winchester)(also 754) (2004)
    * Turion 64 (Lancaster) (2005)
    * Athlon 64 FX (San Diego) (1st half 2005)
    * Athlon 64 (San Diego/Venice)(Venice also 754) (1st half 2005)
    * Sempron (Palermo)(also 754)(1st half 2005)
    * Athlon 64 X2 (Manchester) (1st half 2005)
    * Athlon 64 X2 (Toledo) (1st half 2005)
    * Athlon 64 FX (Toledo) (2nd half 2005)
    * Turion 64 X2 (Taylor) (1st half 2006)

    Am2 and corresponding mobile platforms.
    * Athlon 64 X2 (Windsor) (1st half 2006)
    * Athlon 64 FX (Windsor) (1st half 2006)
    * Athlon 64 X2 (Brisbane) (2nd half 2006)
    * Athlon 64 (Orleans) (2nd half 2006)
    * Sempron (Manila) (1st half 2006)
    * Opteron (Santa Rosa)
    * Opteron (Santa Ana)

    Straight from Wikipedia. Not sure if it's all entirely accurate as I kinda categorized them myself, but it's a good overview.
     
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  5. theonejrs

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    Estuansis,
    Here's the link for all the Athlon 64 chips, also from Wikipedia, but more accurate. You will note that there are a few socket 939 Clawhammers!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors#Athlon_64

    All you do is match the product number from the CPU and you can get all the information including Cache and Voltage. I should have done that before! LOL!!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    Haha your list is much better than mine. I should have looked around as I knew there was a more comprehensive list. There were very few 939 Clawhammers. Most of them were Winchester, Newcastle, or Venice. And Orleans is the direct AM2 equivalent of Venice. There were also 2 x 1MB Toledoes like my 4400+ was and chopped Toledoes with 2 x 512K cache like the last few 939 3800+'s, 4200+'s and 4600+'s. So many different variations on every core :p
     
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    I have a 4800+ AM2 in Oxi! Oxi-Moron to be exact. It's an eMachine on Steroids! LOL!! I replaced all the crappy stuff with good stuff, as it had a decent motherboard. Threw out the PSU, Sempron CPU, the cheapie memory and the stock AMD CPU cooler for a 64x2 4800+, Thermaltake 500w PSU, 2GB of G.Skil PC2/6400, and a freezer 64 Pro! I installed a 50mm fan on the northbridge and it was ready for a new life! it had a WD 120GB Sata drive. It cools great with just a single 92mm fan on the back as the Freezer 64 Pro is almost dead center of the rear fan. It ain't your Father's eMachine! ROFL!!

    Russ
     
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    Haha most eMachines are pretty lame even for the price. Nice to see one that can be upgraded. That's relatively rare.
     
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    Hehe, you rich guys and your 2MB cache Toledos. My X2 was a lowly 1MB Manchester... Ironic, as the system it came in was actually built in Manchester.

    To be fair, the motherboards in stock systems (when they don't use cheap nasty OEM Asus ones) are actually pretty nice. The MSIs I had in my older machines worked very well. Basic, but I was surprised to find a 2003 era board with a pair of S-ATA ports featuring onboard RAID. Never tried overclocking that rig, the CPU ran at 70ºC+ at load, even in a case with five high speed (and very loud) fans, a replacement Arctic cooling CPU with some Arctic Silver V. It idled at around 55-60C.
     
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    Yes but I also didn't get the X1900XT ;P

    And this was an Athlon XP or what? That's really really hot.
     
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    XP 3000+ Barton. It's peak was 78.5ºC back when it still had the stock cooler, fan was full speed at 5000rpm (60mm).
    New cooler had a 2700rpm 80mm fan.
     
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    What was stock voltage? I know some older CPUs used like 1.7v stock, lol.
     
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    1.65. That's post-Vdroop as well, so perhaps it was 1.7.
     
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    Estuansis,
    That's why it's called Oxi-Moron! The motherboard is a Foxxconn, and got decent reviews, but it doesn't overclock. Still with a 4800+, it's not terribly important! I sold off all the goodies that was in Russell's old AMD 4000+ single core, and actually made money doing it! LOL!!

    Here's a new one! Corsair no longer sends a rebate check. They send you a Visa card, with $30 on it. It can't be used with an ATM! That Sucks!

    Russ
     
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    Doesn't surprise me, Corsair have been avoiding rebates for ages, as do a lot of companies in the US, which is why I'm glad we don't have them. Our prices tend to sit between pre-rebate and post-rebate prices (plus VAT obviously), and I'm happy with the middle ground.
     
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    Estuansis,
    The Barton 3000+ was 2.2v!

    Russ
     
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    Russ, mine ran at 1.65V, Hmonitor told me :)
     
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    Either way that's some extreme voltage for 24/7 use.
     
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    It is, but amazingly it was stock :)
     
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    I guess that was an error in where I got the info! Come to think about it all 333MHz FSB Athlon XP's were 1.65v, regardless of the core!

    Russ
     

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