The New AMD Building Thread

Doesn't anybody but me and BigWill think it strange, that the 965 WANTS to run between 44-46C idle? It won't even engage the fan unless the CPU tries to exceed that. Unless of course you manually tell the fan to run full board in the bios. Then it runs super cool. But it also runs rather noisy. It's ok to be somewhat noisy, IF the PC is actually working on something. My 940phenom is busting its butt right now, and is barely louder than my idle 965. Something ain't right there LOL! But the 940 system now has exceptional cooling Though I could upgrade one of its exhaust fans LOL!

 

There's nothing risky about the Corsair Hydro Series H50 easy to install and no spills or leaks to worry about and price is not the issue for me either. I can afford it. I think that it's easy water cooling setup there is out on the market today like.I said these AMD's 965BE's c3 GM run alittle warmer than them AMD Athlon II X4 at idle. I don't what the reason could be.I see air is not good enough to cool it so Water have to do plus. I never had water cooled cpu b4 something new to try also to bad. I don't have any liquid nitrogen laying.lol


@Russ

if your still planning on graduating to 955BE CE you may as well come across some heat issues also with the HDZ955FBGMBOX and your Freezer 64 Pro won't be enough for your liking just this one is'nt to my liking in cooling this 965 of mine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

 

I guess we are the only 1's omegaman everyone's else is wearing steve wonder glasses! I don't like these temps Water Time!

 

Will,
One thing is for certain, I'll know in about 2 or 3 weeks. I have a couple of high dollar laptop repairs to do, so I will have enough to spare for the 955BE. I'm even getting excited! LOL!!

Given the temperature drop I've experienced with the 630, getting the fans right, I like my chances. I'm only looking for 3.8GHz for 24/7 use anyway. Almost all I've seen will run 4.0GHz, so I'll have to see how it all works out, and then decide what speed I want to run it at full time! Right now I'm just waiting for the next sale at Newegg. BTW, does anyone know why the GI is more expensive than the GM. The better CPU is supposed to be the GM with C3 stepping. The GI model has C2!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

That is strange russ. The C3 step i've thought to be the best chip right now. In fact, it would be stupid to buy the C2 model, wouldn't it? LOL!

I don't know that I need to go water. I haven't seen my CPU exceed 51C at High high load, at 3.8Ghz, 1.375V. And actually, that may have been a Core temp. I was uncertain at that time, when measuring temps. It may have been the 49C temp that was the CPU temp. Which is pretty good for extreme load! I suppose the Tuniq is pretty good though I'll have to run some tests this weekend to confirm that. I'm doing a few things this weekend. Reformatting my primary, possibly installing a new CPU fan, Rewiring, etc. Primary's getting some serious attention LOL! I suppose my car needs it too though

 

I would assume they made the process cheaper to do. The same thing happened with the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 and its Rev 1.33 brother. I thought it was a pricing mistake until someone from the "inside" informed me that they improved the board electrically and made it cheaper to produce, so the newer and better revision was actually about $10 cheaper!

And even more credit to Gigabyte, when my original version board died they sent me a Rev. 1.33 free of charge. Wow that kind of customer service is almost uncalled for

Not forgetting Mushkin, Corsair, and OCZ who are notable for good customer service policy. I really appreciate it when reps are understanding and knowledgeable

 

Cheaper to produce. Ok. That makes sense

 

Oman7,
That's exactly the same as Oxi-1 was with the Athlon 64x2 4800 in it. it would idle at 46, yet never exceeded 53C when stressed. Considering there is no AC in the front room, only a Swamp Cooler, that's pretty remarkable. That's with a single rear 80mm exhaust fan that's about 30 cfm, and a Freezer 64! Normal summer front room temps are 80-85F when it's 115F outside. I maintain about 78-80F in the summer but it takes a 8000 BTU AC unit to do it in a 12x12 room! SW exposure, so it's always the hottest room in the house.

After that earthquake in Chile, it's gotten much colder here. Even Nascar had all sorts of problems with the California 500 race, because of the cold! In 8 total years of living here, I've never see it so cold, so late in the year. It was 40F Tuesday night. It's only 47F out right now! I haven't been to a single Picnic yet this year. It's been too cold! We've only had 3 days of 80 degree weather so far this year. Oops! It's down to 46F now! Strange!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

Yah, its pretty cold here too. We've been close to freezing temps...

 

Estuansis,
Yup, the GA-965P-DS3 Rev 1.33 was a good motherboard. I wound up with the best 965P Gigabyte ever made in the GA-965P-DS3R Rev. 1.33, which was not a US sold Revision. We briefly got the Rev. 3.33 in the US, but it wasn't as good as the Rev. 1.33 It came from Canada. You can't even find it on the US website, you have to go to the TW website to get drivers and such. Easiest build of my life and easily the best motherboard I ever owned!

Russ

 

i have the h50 cooler. so simple to install, good price aswell, same as the high end air coolers. go for it. a no mess isntall!

 

It depends on the overclock and the true TDP of the CPU. CPUs certified with a 130W TDP can be far less or far more. If you had a D800 series Pentium D you'd probably be seeing temps in the 60s at least. It also has a lot to do with the voltages. Don't push very hard on an overclock and the wattage of the CPU can be kept below 150W. Turn the volts and the speed right up and the TDP can shoot over 200W which leaves 92mm coolers hopelessly inadequate.

Relatively cold winter here too, several weeks of the temperature remaining between 27 and 37F, slighty warmer weather recently, but this past week has been a bit colder again. It's now noon (thereabouts) and it's 46F outside.

 

Hears some good read
http://blog.corsair.com/?p=987

 

About what I'd expect for performance. Given how many pre-configured systems I see leak, I'm still not risking my PC with one.

 

Sam,
I agree with that 100%. While the D800's were the furnace, the D900's were just Heavy Duty heaters. It was overclocked from 3.2GHz to 3.73GHz, pulling about 165w under load. I had it as far as 2.93GHz, but as Sophocles said, "the Prescot part of the Presler reared it's ugly head". LOL!! It ran too hot! The amount of gain to be had just wasn't there, so I left it at 3.73GHz. It wasn't a particularly great encoder, other than it cut my encode time in half from the P4. 1 1/2 hours vs 3 hours. A stock 64x2 3800 could mop the floor with it encoding. It was fun to play with though, and I learned a lot from it.

Same with the 630 Quad. What I learned from it, I'll pass along to the 955BE. I have one more fan tweak to do and that's to raise both the intake and exhaust by 15 cfm by moving the Rear Silverstone to the lower front intake, and installing a Scythe Slipstream in place of the Silverstone. It should be quieter, getting the stock CM fan out of there, and it should run cooler. If it does, I'll see how it cools with the 955BE in it. Can't hurt to try! If it doesn't work out, I'll replace the CPU cooler, but not with a full tower. I won't need that much more cooling anyway. Whatever I do I'm going to have fun doing it!

Russ

 

Pretty much, but remember the TDP of the X4 965, even with the new stepping is almost identical to that of the Presler Pentium Ds, thus, you will experience the same limitations on temperature if you don't upgrade your cooler.

 

aparenlty 955 BEs are going to start comign in 95W TDPs soon

 

Halfway there to beating the Q9550 then, all they need to do is get the overclocking percentage up and they're sorted, for beating a now-obsolete CPU :S
Call me a cynic, but AMD would do well to use the more efficient chips they have to put out something beyond the 965 in performance.

 

Just to ad to the 955 discussion my temps at 3.8 are 37 deg with stock cooler and 33 deg with freezer 64 at 1.375 volts.Chris

 

Idle temps are pretty meaningless in this context, CPUs will only ever have heat issues when under load, so that's when you test.