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The (new) Official PC building thread!

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by creaky, Nov 27, 2006.

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  1. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    I have a black background and it says Abuzar on the top, with the Pakistani naval jack on the bottom. I'll post a pic later, thanks.

    EDIT: This is what it looks like.
     
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  2. greensman

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    @mort81,
    Hey buddy how is that P/S working out for you. I love the case. Cooler Master Elite 330. Good case for $28. :D

    I've been monitoring my voltages on the P/S and it seems to run a little low on the 12V and the 5V. I'm using PC Probe II by ASUS and it shows the readings of 12V = 11.71 and 5V = 4.89. The other P/S (Apevia) showed 12V = 12.05 and 5V = 4.97. I don't know much about this and just want some "comfort" on the readings and the stability of the unit. It's still way within tolerances but like I said I don't know much about this. :)

    ...gm

    The case is great!! I'm showing 4-8*C lower temps (now) with the new case and added fan. What a difference. Thanks again buddy. :D btw the case "works" better with the sides on. I guess the "wind" from the fans is better directed.
     
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    @greensman
    Your 12v is running a little low...It is better to be a little Over then Under...It is however with in tolerance...

    Is this the Cooler Master P/S?..
     
  4. Mort81

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    greensman,

    I'm still waiting on a replacement hdd for the one that was DOA. newegg was out of exact make and model so they gave me a refund. I ordered a seagate 250gb.

    I haven't had a chance to go any further other than to get into the bios without the hdd. the case seems to be descent enough especially for no more than what it cost. it could stand to be made out of a little heavier gauge iron. it doesn't even compare with my CM mystique case but then again it only cost about 1/4 as much.
     
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    Yep the Cooler Master eXtreme Power 500W.....

    I think it's ok but like most "low end" P/S it does have it's flaws. LOL. I will be getting something BETTER (more power I'm saying...where's Tim Taylor when you need him??) with the next build. Of course the Intel C2D and a little better case too. LOL.

    NOT knocking what I already got but you guys with your Intel C2D are making me look LITTLE. hehehe. :p

    ....gm

    NO matter the outcome I appreciate your help Mort81. :D Have you checked out the STACKER by CM?? Pretty cool I think. ;)
     
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    The stackers are awesome. The 810 has the oldskool big server look to it, whereas the 830 and 832 have the 'I bought a huge case' sort of look.

    As for the voltages, they're pretty low I have to say, that's something you ought to be concerned about. A good power supply will never dip below 11.9V on the +12 or below 4.9V on the +5.

    I personally would say Apevia make far worse power supplies than Coolermaster, but there we go.
     
  7. greensman

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    YEH YEH YEH!!! I think that CM makes a pretty good P/S but like most companies the low end stuff is just that. It's running nicely tho and steady for what I have in the machine. 2 SATA HDD, 4 ODD (2 IDE 2 SATA), 7600GT OC, 4 - 512 DDR PC3200 RAM, X2 3800 939 cpu, 2 120mm case fans, ASUS 8N5X mobo (i think, at work and can't remember the exact model #).

    You think I need more that 500W?? lol

    ...gm
     
  8. sammorris

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    Nah, you're probably only pulling 300W of power, but you need a well made power supply, the rating's almost irrelevant.
     
  9. dreamer2

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    hai i looked around the forum and tried to find the most updated and best pc i can make. my budget is from 1000$ to 1500$. and i want a high end gaming pc.i found those specifications in this thread for a good pc
    Motherboard: $162
    Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 (V3.3) P965 ATX DDRII533 FSB1066 PCIEx16 SATAII RAID GbELAN VDuBIOS Model: GA-965P-DS3(V3.3)

    CPU: $240
    Intel CORE 2 DUO E6750 2.66GHz

    PSU: $162
    Thermaltake Tough Power 600W PSU(14CM Fan)

    Memory: $193.50
    G.SKILL -F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK - 2 GB (1GB x 2) PC2-6400 (DDR2-667)

    Video Card: $166.85
    eVGA e-GeForce 8600GT PCI-E 256MB 128-bit DDR3, 540/1400MHz, Dual Dual Link DVI, HDTV/HDCP, Fan

    Case: $129
    Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano Black Case No PSU

    Hard Drive: $100
    I'll buy a 160GB here in Darwin

    DVD Burner: $60.50
    Sony AWG170SB2B - 18x DVD+/-R/RW Dual Layer DVD Burner, SATA - OEM Black

    there r some questions i need to ask. isnt the Asus have best mobos becasue i wanted to buy Asus but my friend said its bios is not that good. and graphics card can i get better one or this one is good enough. i will be very thankful for the help
     
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    dreamer2,
    Where are you from?? I'm guessing Australia.. ;) with the Darwin comment..

    If not and from the US you can get WAY better deals than what you're posting. Please give a location and possible retailers so we can better serve you. :)

    ....gm
     
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    i m from US. i can get from newegg but i m not sure what to get. i m confused. i will be very thankful to you if u give me all specifications because i never made any pc before.
     
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    The motherboard can be had for about 100. I use that motherboard and it is an excellent choice.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012

    I already gave you links to the CPU and Memory.


    Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%2b900

    Video Card:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

    I personally use a Ultra XVS 700 W PSU. It works fine, but other people would better advise you with PSUs.
     
  14. Mort81

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    my choice of memory is Corsair XMS PC2 6400 2gb for only $64 after MIR.

    I prefer a modular p/s. here's a good one for only $126.90 after MIR.

    good choice for the cpu. the gigabyte is a good choice too although asus does have some good choices as well but most of them will cost you a little more. I rarely stray away from asus though.
     
  15. rick5446

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    QUESTION ! Most PSU range from 18 to 22 amps.Now I've got the Radeon Saphire 1900G,it recommends 25 amp.I've got an Enermax 620W Dual Quad+18
    its only 22 amp.Will this be sufficient power for the card,along with 2 Samsung 500 Gig HDD,1 Liteon LH20 DVDRW.
    Motherboard is the ASUS Crosshair with AMD Dual-Core 6000+
    Need a little feed back Please B4 I get this assembled
     
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    I think that Mort81 and Abuzar1 have answered some questions. :)

    You can get 2 of these Optiarcs (sony) for the price you mentioned.

    I like this LiteOn as well....it's newer so you might need a f/w update but DON'T be afraid of this drive. :)

    btw there is "un-official" f/w updates for most WELL known optical drives (NEC_Optiarc, LiteOn, Pioneer just to name a few) so don't be afraid to ask about that either. :D

    P/S....personal preference but Mort81 linked to a good one. :)

    DON'T be fooled by some of the specs stated in the product review of some P/S. I know from first hand (3 low end p/s) that buying a GOOD P/S is the thing to do. I haven't had any failures yet but I'm lucky that way I guess. :D

    How can you go wrong with Corsair RAM for $65 after MIR??

    ...gm
     
  17. rick5446

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    Wish I had seen this 1st[Ultra XVS 700 W PSU] its even less then what I paid and its a 40amp.But alas I did buy what I thought was a proper PSU until I read the specs on the Vid card [25amp rec.].Still my question being will this 22amp PSU suffice,or will it shut down,run hot or what ?
     
  18. dreamer2

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    i had this wish list from before. so i want to know that the one i posted before is better or these items that i listed below are good thanks

    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
    Model #: VA8000BWS
    Item #: N82E16811133154

    $149.99 $149.99



    ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    Model #: P5WDH DELUXE/WIFI-AP
    Item #: N82E16813131025


    In Stock
    $188.99 $188.99


    Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
    Model #: TP3-650
    Item #: N82E16817371001


    $129.99 $129.99

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
    Model #: BX80557E6600
    Item #: N82E16819115003

    Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

    In Stock
    $229.99 $229.99

    Update
    G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
    Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
    Item #: N82E16820231098

    Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

    In Stock
    $109.99 -$40.00 Instant $69.99

    Update
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    Model #: ST3500630AS
    Item #: N82E16822148136

    Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

    In Stock
    $119.99 $119.99

     
  19. Mort81

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    dreamer2

    here's the same case for $80 less shipping. that's a nice/good case but personally I prefer the mid to upper level cooler masters cases (aluminum and true tooless design not to mention their good ventilation).

    I would opt for the intel E6750. more bang for the buck and only $10 more.

    good mobo. I luv mine. it will require 2206 (2104 actually but it's been superseded by 2206) bios version or later for cpu's with 1333 fsb so if you go with the E6750 check with the vendor where you buy it to be sure it has that bios or later so it will accomodate 1333 fsb cpu's. you might be able to flash it yourself if it will only recognize the cpu at 1066 fsb, not sure though.

    the only con is this mobo runs warm and before installing the mobo, I recommend removing the northbridge and southbridge heatsinks and reinstalling/reseating them with some artic silver 5 thermal compound. I even installed a 40x40x20 chipset fan on both the NB and SB heatsinks. made a big improvement.
     
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  20. Lp531

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    @dreamer2
    Take a look at this P/S...way Better then the one you listed...
    PC POWER and COOLING Silencer 610 EPS12V S61EPS Power Supply Retail ***Free Shipping*** $138
    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005612

    This is an incredible deal on one of the highest rated P/S...The Antec is not even comparable to the PC Power & Cooling Unit...

    @rick5446
    The 25amps must be the recommended amps for the complete system...Not just the video card...1900 are not that power hungry...Could you post a link to the P/S you bought...If you want a Monster P/S...Go with the one I mentioned to Dreamer2...Nothing will touch It at that price range...

    @dreamer2
    I wouldn't recommend you do the N/B mod until after you have checked the system completely...once you Mod it...No More warranty...So make sure the M/B is Ok...Before removing the N/B cooler...
     
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