The (new) Official PC building thread!

@Ichigo100
I've been reading some reviews on the evga 680i board I recommended...prefers the timming of this ram better then the ram I first recommended
Link to motherboard recommended memory:
http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21137

This ram is a little cheaper $228.99 after rebate $203.99
OCZ OCZ2G8002GK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227124
Not rated for SLI..Yet?

This ram is more expensive $274.99 after rebate $234.99
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034
Rated for SLI

The EVGA is a brand new board they show...SLI rated and non SLI rated kits...they don't show the 2GB kit as SLI rated...I am assuming they just have not updated the list to include this kit yet...I would call EVGA and or OCZ and confirm that this kit is rated to work in SLI before ordering...

Below is the list of kits that have been rated:

SLI Ready memory:

Above 1066 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-9600C5
Corsair TWIN2X1024-9600C5D ES
Corsair TWIN2X2048-9136C5
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF

1066 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
OCZ OCZ2N100662GK
OCZ OCZ2N10661G

900 MHz
OCZ OCZ2N9001G
OCZ OCZ2N9002GK

800 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4D
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C3
Crucial BL1286AA804
Crucial BL6464AA804
Crucial BL12864AL804
Kingston KHX6400D2LLK2/1GN
Kingston KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN
A-DATA Vitesta Extreme Edition DDR2-800 CL4
Patriot PDC22G6400LLK


Memory:

Above 800 MHz
Kingston KHX8000D2K/2G
Kingston KHX7200D2K2/2G
Patriot PDC21G8000+XBLK
Patriot PDC21G8500 ELK

800 MHz
Mushkin XP6400
OCZ OCZ2G8002GK
OCZ OCZ2P800R21G
Corsair XMS6405v4.1
G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBNR
G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 800MHz 3-3-3-8
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 800MHz 4-4-4-10

667 MHz
Corsair VS512MB667D2
Buffalo D2V667C-1G/BJ
Patriot PDC21G5300LLK
PQI 5400 Turbo
Kingston KHZ5400D2K2/1G
Geil GX21GB5300SX
Muskin xp2 5300 2x1gb

533 MHz
Kingston KVR533D2/512R
PQI MAB412UOE 512MB DDR2 533

 

Mort81 or Lp531,
I'm looking at another video card for my system but want to possibly carry it over to the next puter I build (hopefully soon...lol). I have a mid-grade single core AMD processor and 1GB of RAM with a PCI-e or PCI slot available. The mobo also has an AGP slot but most mobo's for the future don't, right? I don't play a lot of games but might in the future, I have a GameCube and pS2 for games. Present video card: ATi Radeon 9250 4X AGP 128. TIA for the help.

Lp531,
I'll say it, "THANKS for helping in this thread, you give so much and expect so little in return."

Mort81,
I already kissed your feet in a PM months ago but here it is anyway. lol. THANKS Buddy.

aabbccdd,
Back or not, WE all just wanted OUR Adrianna BACK. LOL. j/k you know how I feel.

...........c

 

@greensman
On that video card...you were talking about a $100 budget...if you can go a little more...you should be able to come up with a 7600GT...If you shop around at the right time...

probably the best bang for your buck...anyone else got any suggestions...

PCI-Express is what you want...what board is it?..

 

Lp531,
Here is the link to my board. Cheap I know but not going to the next build, staying right where it's at. lol.

http://www.machspeed.com/specs/viper/MK8-939A.html

Yeh a $100 or so will suffice. Keep in mind that I plan to move the video card you recommend to the next build. If there are any more questions let me know. Thanks.

............c

 

greensman,

Keep in mind I'm no expert by any means in regards to video cards. You definately want to go PCIe. That card series that Lp531 gave you, 7600gt or 7600gs would probably be a good choice for nvidia in that price range. For ATI you might consider a X1600pro, X1600XT, or a X1650pro or X1650GT. You should be able to find a descent card with 12 pipelines for around $100. I'm probably an nvidia fanboy but couldn't pass on the X850XT platinum edition card I have now when they stopped production on them. The fan exhausts out the back of the case. It has 16 pipelines and cost about $165.

24 pipelines is nothing now and cards like the 7950GT and 1950XT and pro are coming down fast.

 

Mort81 and Lp531,
Forgot to mention that the next build will be (99% sure) with an Intel processor. Been reading (yeh I can read....lol) and it seems that the new Intel Core 2 Duo processor is good stuff. lol. Like you guys don't know this.

Does Intel's compatibility with video cards sway either way? I've only used ATi but know that nVidia is good too. Lurking and learning. Thanks again.

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edit: oops I can read but can't type for you know what.....

 

greensman,

Both nvidia and ATI are compatable with core 2 duo's however I mostly see only SLI (for nvidia's) ready core 2 duo mobo's. Actually I don't think I have ever seen a crossfire (for ATI's) ready core 2 duo mobo. As you probably know, ATI and AMD have merged. I don't run SLI or crossfire so I could very easily be wrong about that. A single card made by either will work fine. Anybody else more educated about the subject please jump in.

 

Alright here is my setup, this was my first computer build, still in the process. IF anyone wants to help like take a pic of their setup that would be cool, cause I have alot of extra cords and empty motherboard prongs and I dont know exactly what to do. Computer lags a little, and windows starts up slow. Please help D:

-7950 gt Nvidia video card
-2.14 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
-XFX Creative sound card
-Creative speakers w/ sub, remote, portable volume adjuster/reciever
-EVGA 680i SLI motherboard
-XIONII Case w/ 4 fans
-19" View Sonic widescreen monitor
-Big thyphoon Heatsink/fan
-580 Power Supply
-2 Corsairs (2 gig)
-24x dvdrw w/ lightscribe | 8x dvdrw
-No floppy disks
-250 gig hardrive
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Anyone live in the chicago area?? Work out somethin??

 

a single pcix card will work in any mobo chipset, for sli (nvidia) you will want a nf65/68i. for crossfire you want one of the intel/ati(it was then) chipsets 965/975.

dont touch the 1600s with a barge poll, if they were any good ati would not of brought the 1650s out.

not 100% on the cost in the states but agp cards cost more in the uk than the pcix equivelant. now i have a amd3400 which was in an agp mobo, for the price of an agp 7600gt (£150) i could get a nf4 mobo and a 7600gt pcix card. guess which i bought. i got a 26%overclock with the nf4 board.

 

Where is the best place to put my sensors at on my optic drives...Im thinking on the bottom sense the top part is where the door is? I I am going to change my sensors so that when I lightscribe three at a time I can watch the temps...

Also on this new case Im going to over the weekend [thermaltake Armor] has three fans... Im going to put a controller that manually [knobs] lets you change the fan speed, but I want gauges also...any ideas????

 

Did a little searching a came up with this comparison of cards. I think they are all good but don't really understand the memory (256 v.512) and GDDR2 v. GDDR3. I'm guessing 512 is better than 256 and GDDR3 is better than GDDR2 but they're all similar prices. To confusing when you need to go to sleep. >_<....yawn...

Right now these are at the limits I can spend and get away with it. lol. I can wait if need be a few more weeks or even months for a better card to come down in price or these to come down. Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?Category=38&Nty=1&Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1305520548+1068109604&SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814130073%2CN82E16814170099%2CN82E16814130062%2CN82E16814141043%2CN82E16814145132%2CN82E16814143049

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edit: sorry about the post stretchin everything out....tried to fix but no luck......

 

I,m not here to argue but I had a X1600pro in my old pc and although I don't do much gaming but watch a lot of video, it never gave me a lick of trouble. I felt it was a good card for the money.

So by that you're also saying the 7900GT, 7900GTO, X1900XT, and X1900XTX are no good either just because they came out with a later improved revision of the card and ended it with 50. I disagree.

 

@greensman
The BFG OC is the best deal...20mhz faster core speed...50mhz faster memory speed...after rebate it is also the cheapest...
Prices have come down...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814143049

256MB vs 512MB...they are talking about the amout of memory on the card...
DDR2 vs DDR3...they are talking about the type of memory on the card...DDR3 is faster memory then DDR2...

 

Mort81 I was thinking the same thing.

Lp531,
Thanks for your input. Good advice as far as I can tell. lol. Will consider the one you recommended and try to convince the money police. LOL.

btw like your new sig BUT it should read: Something else I believe in... so someone else you should go save. JM2C. lol.

..........c

 

It's from Richard Patrick of "FILTER"...

 

lp531,

im looking for a better motherboard. here is my info. can you reconmend one that will support all this.


(1)computer case http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2477938&CatId=0 (69.99) on its way

(2)power supply http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2440&CatId=2036 (119.99)please let me know if this will power what i have listed. i dont want to fry my stuff.

(3)mother board http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...7&sku=A455-2305 (154.99)

(4)floppy drive http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...54&sku=ULT31799 (ive already got this one)(24.99)

(5)dvd burner lite-on 20x dvd-+r burner w/12x dvd ram write & lightscribe technology black ide MODEL LH-20A1H-186 (already have this) (42.99) no pic

(6)dvd rom lite-on combo drive black ide model sohc-5236v bk rtl (23.99) (already have this) no pic

(7)hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136055 (79.99)have not bought yet

(8)memory- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145153 dont have yet

(9) cpu fan/heat sink http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...0&sku=T925-1168 dont have yet (12.99)

(10)processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103741 (169.99) dont have yet

(11)case fan (bay slot)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...73&sku=ULT30982 (7.99) dont have yet

(12) video card http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...46&sku=D15-9014 (69.99) dont have yet

(13) operating system- windows media center. not sure which one to get. there are two different ones. which one should i get?


the motherboard is no longer sold on tiger, so i looked on newegg, the reviews were not to good on it. said that you had to do alot of patching before it worked good. im not into all that. i dont know jack about patching. so im looking for a different board. any thoughts would be great. this is the old board shown here.

thanks,
taz1974

 

taz1974,

Any particular reason you are going with AMD over Intel? Intel has the lead in dual core processors right now. Even the E6300 core 2 duo will outperform the 4200 and it's only a few dollars more. It's ultimately up to you of course.

If you wait a little bit Intel is going to up the L2 shared cache from 2M to 4M on the E6300 and E6400. The 4M shared L2 cache models will be called E6350 and E6450. E6600 and up already have 4M shared L2 cache.

You will need a matched set of memory (instead of a single stick) if you intend on running dual channel memory.

 

mort81,

well ive always have had amd. its what i kinda know right now. i may on my second build look into intel. any suggestions on a board for me. i have different memory than whats in the list. lp531 helped me pick good dual channel memory sticks. so im ready there. just didnt like the reviews on this board. i have changed my mind a hundred different times on things. i guess i want my first build to be good. and to last awhile.

taz1974

 

this would be my pic for a mobo

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB Socket 939

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568