The (new) Official PC building thread!

I think we're talking about proper high-end XPS level stuff there though. Even recent Dell XPS systems used standard Dell-brand (so PCP&C I assume) 375W units. I can fully understand with the new gaming systems they're making (SLI and all that) that they use proper units, and I'm glad they do. However, I'm pretty certain that the vast majority of prebuilt PCs still use pretty dire power supplies.

 

i thought they use good power supplies...

 

What, prebuilt PCs? You must be joking...

 

@sam

You are correct about that...and yes as I stated...

 

Yep, just thought I'd highlight the rarity of the matter though. it's not like the top 25% of all prebuilt PCs have decent units.

 

Most Prebuilt PC's market only one thing...the CPU...everything else is of Low quality...because most consumer know absolutely nothing about a computer or the components...they will tell the consumer..."Hey look...it has the same Speed Processor and the same size Ram...so it is just as Fast"...and...the unknowing consumer...Buys It...

I don't know how many times I get told by customer..."don't you need to buy a Pre-Configured PC...because they know what software needs to be installed to be compatible"...not realizing that...The Major problem with a Pre-Configured PC is...All the incompatible and cr@ppy software installed...and the Low Quality of the Major Components used to build these Pre-Configured PC's...

 

Oh and I also get told this. People tell me they buy pre-built PCs because the hardware is more "compatible", then the one I would build.

That's just so stupid.

 

LMAO I've heard that one so many times before.

 

Also, can you guys direct me to a prebuilt PC from HP, Dell that does list what motheboard is used?

I can honestly say i have never saw the motherboard used in the prebuilt PC's listed on a website.(nor instore)

Graphics are another bummer, only once have i saw an 8800GTS card used at PC World and it was over £1200. The profit margins that these companies achieve is astonishing.

You know what would be sweet?
If you guys put together a site where you build PC's for people(with gaming in mind) and sell them off for minimal profit margins to get the consumer interested, and gradually dominate the market!

I mean the average Joe would not think twice about handing over say £600 for a machine recommended by his mate(who bought previously from you)

You can tell i study Business Management at school and aiming for the Higher A.

 

Then you'll fail, because you won't make a huge profit! lol
The PC business is pretty well sewn up. If you sell a PC at £50 profit, you'll need a lot of business to make significant return. To do that means selling almost at the same price point as the prebuilt units. The difference is, that you're using higher quality stuff. Trouble is, how do you get dumb consumers to recognise that?

 

Profit is not everything when starting up a business. We could easily establish brand loyalty/marketing with pricing penetration/ destroyer pricing.

A good example of this is ASDA. They sell products at a loss to get rid off the competition as others just can't compete due to the low prices. I admit over hauling HP etc looks daunting but hey, "impossible is nothing"

Didn't Gigabyte start off in an office of 8 people?
Now look at it

 

Lol that's very true. The main competition in this area though comes from websites like pcspecialist.co.uk...

 

Gigabyte started off with just 8 people...you serious...then who made the product?

 

That was then they first started, then they diversified into different market segments. It's kinda like Bill Gates, started work on Windows in his Dad's garage.

 

He did indeed. We all have to start somewhere...

 

Spose ill ask now. How do the new G92 8800GTS cards stack up to the 8800GT?

 

The G92 version of the 8800GTS pretty much performs identically to the 8800GTX, sometimes a bit faster, sometimes a bit slower. The difference being of course that it only has 512MB of RAM rather than 768MB.

 

Actually Steve Jobs started in his dad's garage.

 

i know BG but who is Steve?

 

Steve Jobs is one of the (2) founders of Apple Computers the other being Steve Wozniak...Steve Wozniak then started the US Festival...Steve Wozniak is also single handily responsible for the decline of most of the Concert promoters in the USA...He changed the pay structure of the music industry...a Brilliant man when it came to computers...An Idiot when it came to the Music industry...I personally Despise Him...