The (new) Official PC building thread!

No, just don't bother with crossfire. ATi graphics cards are fine, but crossfire's an absolute joke. I'm almost certain that's where your problems came from.

 

Okay. I wonder what a standalone 3870 would have gotten on 3dmark06, probably just over 10,000. So for an extra say £160, to get 2,000/3,000 marks seems pointless

 

With a good dual core CPU, A 3870 can make 11,000 points if not more. Even a 3850 can make 10,000.

 

Yeah like sam said a 3850 can make about 10Grand. I am making about 10,400.

 

@greensman

If you really want to push the limits...go with PC-8500 Crucial or Cosair...You really can't push the limit with PC-6400...

Of the module you had chosen...those OCZ sticks were the cheapest...and basically they were all the same...except for the Color of the Heat Spreaders...My recommendation was basically a Price choice...I personally prefer Crucial or Corsair...I do not have a problem in using OCZ...however...they can be more temperamental with certain builds...some times they just do not like certain M/B chips...

I just have found that Crucial and Corsair...just work better universally for most builds...they are just more compatible...and more Over Clockable...I just personally think that they are higher quality memory modules...

 

Hey greensman,

I keep poking around the net and I keep hearing nice things about these! Even GigaByte told me that "even though they are not on their approved list, the customer feedback they've been getting indicates that they work quite well in their motherboards! I think I'll pass on the 1066 Dominators and get these. I know also that s few guys here use it and swear by it. Take a look at them and see what you think. I like the 2.1v, while the dominator's use 2.3-2.4v.

Oh! I only have one E6750. I swapped CPUs using my old (LOL!) E4300 which I just sold! Computer runs great and it's oh so smooth! I know it's close to ideal for me and when I can get the memory it should be perfect at 3.8GHz. It almost has that "Old Friend" feel to it! It already does SuperPi 1MB in 14.735 seconds and 32MB in 14min 46sec 62ms so it isn't slow. The temps stay about 3 degrees higher than ambient temperature for the CPU. The temperature didn't go up but a couple of degrees going from 2.66 to 3.52GHz. I would figure that the E6750 would be a chip that couldn't meet the more demanding specs for The E6850. I guess they would run the same temperature wise but give the edge to the E6850 in performance. Just an Edumacated guess! LOL!!

Wishing You and Yours a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year


Theone :<}

 

@theonejrs
You might want to ask DocTy about the Dominator's...I believe he had some...I do not think he was real impressed with his...I could be completely wrong...so...ask the Doc...

 

Thanks theone!! I appreciate the advice on the DDR2 1066. It's not that much more really especially if you get what you pay for and more.

Man the more I think about it the more I want to get the E6850....lol.

You guys don't know me that well...anyway I used to play golf at a higher level than most and I had all the BEST stuff you could get. lol. I'm getting that way with computers now. hehehe. AND that's bad according to my wife. She just doesn't understand!!!

Anyway!! Thanks for the advice.

....gm

 

In case of spouse issues, consider:
How much is an expensive computer?
How much is an expensive car?
Are computers dangerous?
Are computers expensive to run?

 

You make "good" arguments for someone so young but you also fail to realize that said computer will take away time from her even tho she's in bed right now and I stay up late most of the time to be able to "chat" with you silly men!! lol NOW danger is realative to where you go on the NET and what you do while there. The are "bad" sites to visit and then there's purchasing on the NET too.

So see young padwon the argument is WEAK at best. LOL. I could go on but you need to visit with Dad to truly understand where I"m coming from. hehehe. ;P

Just realized sam, you been up all night?? IT's about 6:30am there isn't it??

.....gm

 

Lol yep, you got me!
I may have got up rather late, and therefore may also still be up rather late.
As for your argument, well... one of my friends is able to spend a great deal of time on his PC and with his girlfriend as well, so it can be done. As for the time spent on the net and the compulsion to buy things, it is indeed great I warrant you, but hey, with great power comes great responsibility right?

 

@greensman
I would go with the 6750 use it over the next year...then once the mainstream Penryns come out...and go down in price...upgrade to a Quad Core Penryn...

This is what I am doing for a friend who wants the biggest bang for the buck right now...but wants to have a clear upgrade path...he wants this PC to last 4 to 5 years...which the penryn should accomplish that task...plan on using the GA P35C-DS3R as his board to give him the DDR3 upgrade path for memory...The Gigabyte M/B basically gives you the most option...

 

Of all the upgrade plans, that's the best one to go for, for now.

 

Lp531,

sammorris said,

Sounds like an old Buick commercial, "Ask the Man Who Owns One"!LOL!!

Good choice of motherboard too! I know Sam and Abuzar1 like theirs!

About the memory, I got to thinking about it and talking on the other thread with Soph. So I got to thinking about what he said that he would bet the 1066 chips are the same as on the 800MHz with the dominators. I looked at that 2.3-2.4v and then looked at the 2.1v of the 1066 Tracers. I'll give it a "Scientific Wild A$$ Guess" that the higher voltage is what gets the Dominators to 1066! To my mind, that should mean that the Tracers should be better and more overclockable. Just a theory but it makes good sense as a lot of people complain about the fancy heat sink getting hot at stock speeds! nothing get's the old memory hotter, faster than a swift kick in the voltage! On that basis and because I believe in myself, especially my S.W.A.G.s, as mine usually pan out! My choice is going to be the Crucial Ballistix Tracers. The ones I borrowed ran just fine at 1200MHz with just a slight increase in voltage to 2.2v. Didn't get hot either!

It's so hard to get a meaningful customer review anywhere to help you make up your mind, because more than half of them that do complain, burned it up an then swore it was run at stock speeds or it was DOA! They always say that they were running it at stock speed, when it died! A bit like the kid with Frosting all over his face telling his Mother that he didn't eat the cake! LOL!! Yet, earlier in their post they're mentioning 3.6 or better CPU speeds so you know they were at least 1080MHz because the 900MHz with the 2x wouldn't be fast enough for them!

I just go visit other overclocking forums. I'm a member but I never post. That way I don't get angry when somebody tells someone to FO, and That Someone, wasn't me!! ROFLMAO!!

Best Regards,
Russ :>)

 

@theonejrs

I think that would be an accurate assessment..
I do not think you can go wrong with the Crucial...at least with the Crucial...you already know what they can do in your set-up...
I highly doubt that the Corsair could do any better...at the same voltage...

 

Lp531,

It's just good old common sense thinking, sort of Cause and Effect!
The Million Dollar Question is "Why do they call it common Sense when there's so Little of it around"? LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ {:>}

 

After putting my Laptop next to one the coolest parts of my house and leaving overnight there and booting up, i got these temps. I have another few ideas to get all temps under 20.



Plus, this part of Scotland is meant to reach -6 tonight.

 

@he_man

I hope your talking Celsius...or did Scotland somehow become part of Iceland.. Either way...I am glad to be in California...I was wearing shorts till about 2 weeks ago...Me No Like the Cold...or Long Pants...

 

Yeah i am, should have said that. It usually doesn't get this cold though. We get very cold winters and mild summers. Summers never beat like 20.

But i think im lucky, my dad has been in -60 i think in the "Tundra" area of Russia.

 

Hi I got 2 pc parts ready but was wondering which one is better. I don't play games but watch alot of movies and series on my pc and use programs that slow down my current pc alot.

I had try to keep around the £600 budget so here it is:

PC 1

Tower: 1 x NZXT Alpha Black Mid Tower Case - With E-SATA Port - No PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135158

PSU: 1 x Corsair HX Series 520W Modular PSU - ATX12V v2.2 APFC - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114945

CPU: 1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333FSB Socket 775 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130484

MOBO: 1 x ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP AiLifestyle Series P35 Socket 775 Socket eSATA 8 channel Audio ATX Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129126

RAM: 1 x Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710

Hard Drive: 2 x Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB SATAII Hard Drive 16MB Cache - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454

Optical Drives: 2 x Pioneer DVR-212BK 18X SATA DVD1RW DL Int Black - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132285

Graphics Card: 1 x PowerColor HD2600Pro 256mb DDR2 128bit DVI PCI-E Graphics Card - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132502

OS: 1 x Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2B x32bit OEM 1PK CD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114048

Total: £605.66

PC 2

Tower: 1 x NZXT Alpha Black Mid Tower Case - With E-SATA Port - No PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135158

PSU: 1 x Corsair VX450WUK 450W PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131052

CPU: 1 x Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Energy Efficient 95W edition Socket 775 (2.40GHz) G0 Stepping L2 8MB Cache OEM Processor - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131823

MOBO: 1 x ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP AiLifestyle Series P35 Socket 775 Socket eSATA 8 channel Audio ATX Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129126

RAM: 1 x Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710

Hard Drive: 2 x Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB SATAII Hard Drive 16MB Cache - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454

Optical Drives: 2 x Pioneer DVR-212BK 18X SATA DVD1RW DL Int Black - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132285

Graphics Card: 1 x Sapphire HD 2400 Pro 256MB VGA DVI TVO PCI-E Graphics Card - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128951

OS: 1 x Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2B x32bit OEM 1PK CD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114048

CPU Cooler: 1 x Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994

Total: £630.14

Basically the changes were the graphics card, cpu, and the psu. So how are the parts for each individual pc and are they compatible.

Thats it, so which one is better for general use, not for gaming but video encoding and editing / working with 3d graphics / photoshop and so forth.

Thanks.