The (new) Official PC building thread!

Thanks Russ!! I was expecting that "cardboard box" that Crucial is famous for and it didn't show up so I started to panic. I almost called Crucial just for poo-poo's and ha-ha's. ;D I checked the "product code" and I did indeed get what I ordered. LOL. Funny of them not to indicate what the memory is on the module itself. Anyway I got what I wanted for RAM now I'm ready for the rest. lol. ;P

....gm

 

My guess is that the packaging is better for the retailers. This way they can see if the memory is there without opening a box to check! LOL!! All I got was an empty box one time, but they replaced it right away!

Best Regards,
Russ {:<}

 

Looks like NVIDIA knew they had fucked up with the 8800GT.



Bigger cooler FTW!!!!!!!

 

Lol, if at first you don't succeed, use a bigger fan!
And to think I don't even use a fan on my graphics card, and it puts out just as much heat as an 8800GT...

 

I read the specs..Both are Lite-On 20x,So which is the better Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228
I'm thinking this is the better one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118003
Both are a very good buy
$25.99 Free 3 Business Day Shipping
Just might a couple as early Xmas present to me
unless U can direct me to something better

 

I prefer Sony-NEC drives to Lite-ons but people complain that they're noisy. They could well be right. Either are reliable drives though, no matter what the cretins who post on newegg say.

 

So my question still is , which is the better Product?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228
I'm thinking this is the better one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118003

 

From the average reviews it seems like the lite-on is better. The features are the same so take your pick. I currently use a Lite-on drive and I like it.

 

I used an NEC drive and was perfectly satisfied with it.
Past tense is because Starforce destroyed it, but that could happen to any drive. I can't comment on how Sony has affected NEC's products.

 

What is star force?

 

Copy protection system. You will find something along these lines on some pc game back covers,

"this game has software to avoid duplication which may conflict with some cd/dvd drives"

More here,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarForce

 

How does it ruin a drive?

 

Not sure if this is true but, (quoted from that wiki page)

Boing Boing, a popular weblog, alleged that StarForce was malware, citing several problems associated with the protection system, including disk drive performance degradation, weakening of operating system security and stability

 

It induces massive read errors by modifying the firmware of an optical drive, forcing the laser to do things it wouldn't normally.

 

Then sue them!

 

LULZ

A sum up of how the protection works,

StarForce is believed to operate by measuring the physical angle between the first and last written sector on the CD. This hardware signature is identical on all copies pressed from the gold master but is currently difficult to reproduce when burning a duplicate disc. Certain programs(blindewrite 5 worked for me) can spoof this angle by intercepting communications between the CD drive and the protected application, effectively disabling the protection.

 

Have you read what happens when you try?
because Starforce are supported by every major corporation in the world, if you sue them, they counter-sue you for harassment, at several million dollars.

 

We'll get a tramp on the streets with no assets to sue them. They then get,

INTELECTUALLY CHECKMATED!!!!!!!!!

 

Tat doesn't seem fair. If Sony can get sued for rootkit issues they should be sued too. They are rendering useless, effectively destroying, YOUR PROPERTY. You don't mess with other peoples property man.

 

rick5446,

The Sony/NEC are my choice for my own use and for customer builds. I just never have a problem with them and have been using them since they were just NEC! I like them and swear by them, and so do my customers!

As far as the noise goes, My ear is about 3 ft. away at from the drive and it's very quiet. I hear the same complaint about Asus DVD-Rom drives and I just don't get it! I've also used them for years with no complaint.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year


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