The (new) Official PC building thread!

Lp531,

It was a good game and the Giants made a fight of it and got ahead until the Pats ran off 18 unanswered points. It was still close at the end. The Giants kicker did a lousy job on the on-side kick attempt which went in the air, straight to Varatec with a little over a minute to go! Game over! Three knees and it was done! Perfect season 16 and 0! Sorry you missed a hell of a game!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

Greensman, that's actually a pretty good reason I guess. I would too if I could. Unfortunately I had to make some budget cuts after the gas prices went to hell lol.

Yeah you're right you really can't argue with free, but it's actually 8 dollars, what a ripoff! lol. I'm gonna order it today hopefully.

EDIT: Do you think people will buy into this?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/522981657.html

 

abuzar1,

Is this yours? Cause if it is, the truth is being stretched just a wee bit! LOL!! The comment that it's faster than the Quad cores is also stretching things a bit too! By that notion, it would have to be an E6850 or at the least an E6750, and it's only faster than a Q6600 til you overclock the Q6600! The higher Kentsfields would eat it for breakfast stock! LOL!! Still, $600 sounds pretty low! if is an E6850!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

Hi everyone,

I been reading some of the posts here and can see that everyone here really know their stuff.
I'm looking to build my own system again. I have not build one in several years. I thought of a few things that would be nice and what I'm looking to spend. This will be a gaming system but I know later I can upgrade parts when I need too. I did not have a system that could handle Unreal Tournament 3 or most new games now that I want. I'm open to what people this is good and what works.

Price limit 1200

This is some of the things I was thinking:

Intel processor Dual core2
Motherboard that can fix Micro ATX Case
Micro ATX case that has a good power supply.
Video Card that has ATI or Nvidia chip set.
Dual 320GB SATA drives so I can mirror them.
Would like it to be quiet.

I did a rough list from newegg

Spec-Research 01023 Black 0.65mm SECC Micro ATX Mini HTPC Computer Case 400W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811292003

TWO - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148144

ASUS P5E-VM HDMI LGA 775 Intel G35 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131237

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028


Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116215

ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121217&Tpk=N82E16814121217

Two - 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2 / DIMM Dual Channel Kit (2X2GB) / PN - DDR2 4GBX2 DIMM KIT / A-DATA
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5475029

Already have DL DVD drive that can go into the system.

 

Well overclocked at 3Ghz it is faster

Yeah I stretched the truth a bit it's still true though, just stretched a bit lol.

 

redmars,

First rule of buying a case is to almost never get one that comes with a power supply. 98% of all power supplies that come with a case are junk! At $89 for both you can almost be assured that this one is junk! A good quality PS alone, would cost that much. Also 400 Watts is a bit short on power these days 500 Watts is about the lowest most people go. Your other choices aren't too bad but I would go with the 1066 memory over the 800 given the prices today.

Rule of thumb with power supplies is if it's cheap, it usually isn't any good. a Cheap PS can cost you more money in the long run, in damage to your motherboard and other things! Trust me, most of us here have been there, done that! LOL!!

Best Regards,
theone

 

I don't get it, are you building a PC optimal for performance? Why go with a u-atx case? Just get a mid-tower case and a good motherboard. No need to go with a G35 chipset either if you're getting a video card.

 

abuzar1,

I was thinking of the small case for easy of carrying it. But a mid-tower maybe better. Not many good ATX Micro motherboards for the case.

What is a good motherboard/chipset that is good to look for?

theonejrs,

Yes I read that the power supply was not good.

 

@ Redmars,
If in the states you can use the EGG.

mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775

case: CM Ammo

p/s: Corsair 550-VX

RAM: comparison of products and prices....after MIR all of these are under $60 and have cas4 2 x 1GB sticks.

Just some ideas for you Red... I can't remember exactly what you were needing but here's a start. hth...

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Someone said something about a module for the Stacker 830...try this link

...gm

 

I think you would be better off going with a Gigabyte Ga-P35-DS3R, the better cooling does help and it has more features like RAID, which you wanted to do.

 

redmars,
While I agree with greensman on most of what he posted I would opt for the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R Rev 2.0 for $27 more rather than the DS3L. That $27 gets you 6 Intel Sata 3.0 Gb/s, 2 GigaByte Sata 3.0 Gb/s, Raid, 8 rear USB ports, headers for 4 more USB ports, 8 channel HD Audio that's awsome, compatibility with the new 45nm CPUs, Ultra-Durable, better cooling and a whole lot more. It's what I use, and so far it's easily the best MB I ever owned. As soon as I get some Crucial Balistix Tracer 1066 memory (highly recommended), I can bump my E6750 up another 300MHz to 3.8GHz. You also get the best customer service I've ever encountered in almost 20 years of building computers. They treat you like you matter to them! Great Folks and unbelievable service!

I had a GA-965P-DS3 Rev. 1.33 before that and both tie for the easiest builds and overclocks of my life! I haven't heard one single complaint from anyone that purchased one on my advice, except a couple of Thank Yous! LOL!!

Best Regards,
theone

 

I agree with the DS3R mobo. I forgot that he wanted Raid and all but I was looking at price again which is silly. He should be able to keep this within budget especially around $600 for everything with a couple of changes (cpu for one).

@Redmars,
I think that an E6750 would be good enough for your needs and save $100 plus I think that any of the RAM that I linked to is better than A-DATA.. jm2c...
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I've gone kinda crazy on this build but I don't plan on adding anything but a better GPU and maybe some more HDD's at some point. ;P

...gm

 

greensman,

I agree totally on the E6750. There's very little to be gained with the E6850.

redmars,

Knowing what I know now, I would still opt for 2x1 GB of the Crucial Balistix Tracer DDR26400 memory (The black ones not the gold) as they're the same price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076

Check the combo deal on the video card with this card. Both together is only $138.99 after a $35 MIR. here's the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085

Not a bad deal at all!

Best Regards,
theone

 

Actually I wouldn't get the 8600Gt. If this is going to be a gaming PC then buy a good card, at least as HD 3850.

 

abuzar1,

If you've on a budget, the memory is terrific and the video card is touted as the best budget gamer you can buy! All for $138.98! Pretty tough to beat for the price, and better than average quality too! Your base system would still be the same and you could upgrade the video if needed or wanted to down the road. Hell of a combo for the bucks! And DirectX 10 to boot!

Best Regards,
theone

 

Yeah DirectX 10 is fine and stuff, but the card isn't powerful enough to run those games in directx 10 mode! Unless you're ok with 10F FPS.

Seriously if you're gonna do it do it right. He has a Budget of 1200! That's a very good budget to build a gaming PC. Anyway he has picket out a HD 3870 already which is a terrific card. So just leave the card the same.

 

NOW theone don't get ugly here. You know that I have that CPU on the way. I got it because a friend needed something that I could get and besides I had an extra $100 laying around....hehehe. (Christmas you know) I already had the GPU so don't go there!! I'll get something like the HD3850 later... I like the new ATi stuff....

....gm

 

greensman,

Not getting ugly at all. At stock speeds there's not a lot of difference between the two. I certainly wouldn't mind having one, and I'm glad you have one coming as I'm anxious to see what it can do in your hands! The 6850 will overclock higher then the 6750, but I'm a budget conscious guy and would rather save the $100 and use it somewhere else. If money were no problem, I would have the 45nm Qx9650 in mine or in a DQ6! LOL!!

abuzar1,

I don't know where you are getting this information but the 8600GT is capable of much better than that. It was just a good combo deal on 2x1GB of fine memory and a better than average gaming card for $138! It may just well have suited his needs. I'll make my own list of components as to what I would build for 1200 with redmars's needs!

EDIT! Here's my list!

case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119098
I like the case and the sturdy carrying handle for Lan Parties

MOTHERBOARD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050
I know this mB and I love it!

Hard drives (2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148144
His spec on the drives

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713
I'll go with this then

Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Great PS

Memory 1066MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070
Seems to be the favorite of builders right now. Highly praised

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

Comes to $1,227.59 including tax and shipping -$65 MIR = $1,162.59

That's what I would build for myself with his budget and needs!



Best Regards,
Russ

 

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=637&p=4

Now enable DX10 on that. I don't think they did. Anyway no need to get upset and become a "beast"

Whoo, calm down there, didn't mean to upset you like that. You guys are awesome!

EDIT: Sorry to rag on you again but the old 8800GTs sucks now. It's not worth it, especially when a 160 dollar HD 3850 outperforms it at best and is on par at worst.

 

abuzar1,

I'm not upset, except with myself! I should have checked redmars post and I would have seen I missed the $1200 budget. I somehow thought he had $600 to work with. My Stupid! I just edited my post with a list. You won't like my choice of video card but I'm not a big ATi fan! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ