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The (new) Official PC building thread!

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by creaky, Nov 27, 2006.

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  1. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    The village called...they want their idiot back. :p
     
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    gm,

    actually any of them should be good but personally I would go with this ram
     
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    Russ logic would have it since the guy works for Intel he would have the correct information,apparently not huh LMAO!!

    and on that note the Logic Would Have It joke Mort sent me was classic lol
     
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    Mort81,
    Usually I agree with you when it comes to Ram, but the OCZ has the nod here! About 20% more sales and a better customer rating. Read a lot of good things about this Ram when I'm just poking around the net!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    I can't disagree with you Russ. that's probably the best choice right now for DDR ram.
     
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    Hello all,

    I am totally confused about which graphics card to buy - is this a good deal or am I better spending the money on a different one.

    XFX GF 8800GTX 630M 768MB DDR3 2XDVI XXX PCI Express w/HDTV Adapter, HDCP - Free Lost Planet PC Game Included - £189.00
     
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    One other thing - Is the Quad 6600 a better CPU than the E8400?
     
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    Theone: He's no idiot, he's telling you the 3110 is incompatible so Intel can sell you a 'compatible' motherboard for it!
    Can2113: I was going to point out the 4-pin connector but I was beaten to it. EVERYBODY misses that, I have on occasions!
    Wololo: I'd recommend the Q6600 over the E8400 now. Quad core games are starting to appear more, and the E8400 isn't really an overclockers dream, the Q6600 is. That graphics card is a steal for that price, but bear in mind it isn't a whole lot faster than the 8800GT, which is significantly cheaper still.
     
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    what site is that??

    and as sam said its a steal. and he also said its much better to get the 8800GT (and it will reduce your electricity bill.

    But what res do you game at. if it 1920x1200 and you want like 4xAA 16XAF then the GTX will pull very far ahead due to the 768MB ram, and the 384 bit interface.

    the 8800GTS 512 is about £165 for a BFG OC one, which come with 10yr waranty, is superb for the price and performance.

    also the 8800GT OC 10year waranty is £125 aswell (all OcUK)
     
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    As I discussed in the video card thread, the 8800GTS is only worth having if very close to the 8800GT in price. £40 isn't close enough IMO.
    Given their recent performance, I'd also avoid pre-overclocked graphics cards, and just do the job yourself. The pre-OCed ones rarely overclock much further, and they're forever going wrong it seems.
    Get one like this:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=698278
     
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    The OEM 8800GT is very cheap, but with no warranty from the manufacturer or the shop, it may as well be from ebay, and if you're going to do that, you may as well get this instead:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Xpert-Vision-...oryZ3762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    The BFG card too is cheap, but are BFG cards really worth having? Manufacturers warranty, but the overclocks on them are tiny.

    As for the GTX, I'd be more than willing to spend an extra £10-£15 to not have an EVGA card and get this one:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=548066

    There's no argument that OcUK are cheap, but excepting perhaps the BFG 8800GT, cheap often comes at a price.
     
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    The deal for this card is at Amazon:
    XFX GF 8800GTX 630M 768MB DDR3 2XDVI XXX PCI Express w/HDTV Adapter, HDCP - Free Lost Planet PC Game Included

    ok - I have £400 for a board, chip and graphics card - tell me what you would buy!
     
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    I've already bought 2GB Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz
     
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    That should do nicely.

    Just seen a review of the new Phenom 9850, priced at £155 in the UK, £15 above that of the Q6600. Performance at stock (2.5Ghz) is almost equal to that of the Q6600 stock, 2.4Ghz, not too bad. Trouble is, you need 1.6V to get it to 2.95Ghz.
    Oh well, bad luck AMD.
     
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    in defense of the INTEL guy. he didnt try to push a INTEL board, he didnt even mention one until i asked him what board would be good with the E3110. then he only recomended 1.
    i guess those who dont know shouldnt comment about it.... :/
     
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    other than the quad games comeing out, everything ive read about the E8400(my problems not included cause i dont know what the hell im doing)its a great chip to OC. with the right mobo and ram it can reach 4.0ghz on air with ease. Soph has his stable at 3.8ghz with ddr2800 mem thats the only thing holding him back from 4.0ghz or higher is the mem.
     
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    It overclocks well, but the trouble is it won't last long if you do. Reports of CPUs failing in a matter of days even at relatively minor voltage increases are rife. The truth of the matter is, when the wires are closer together, electricity can jump across the gaps at a lower voltage. Therefore, 45nm CPUs are extra-vulnerable to electronmigration. Given this I'd only say overclocks were valid if they were done at stock voltage, in the same way that overclocks on the Q6600 are valid if they're done at less than 1.5V.
     
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    you said it right there sam..everyone thinks you have to jump the volts up on this chip like others and you dont.. all the successfull OC's ive read about they have kept the stock volts of 1.225v and have gotten to 3.6-3.8ghz. people takeing the volts up to 1.3-1.35 is frying the cpu ive seen a review that a guy took his upto 1.4 to get 3.8ghz and failed in 2 days. this chip dont need that much to power it. to be honest i had mine at 1.3-1.35v from like the second day i had it. when i get my mobo back it wont go over 1.25(1.225 is stock) i think pepp said this 20 or 30 pages back. that the E8xxx series dont require high volts.
    heck im glad intel gave me a new one. dont have to worry if i over volted it..lol

    the learning curve of a new product.
     
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