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The (new) Official PC building thread!

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by creaky, Nov 27, 2006.

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  1. rick5446

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    OK Thanks everybody..Just could not see why the 6MB Cache was Cheaper
    Other then that the specs look the same
     
  2. cincyrob

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    ut oh my E8400 got a vote from someone but me...lol

    now that i got mine running this thing fly's gotta got get me my pilot license to operate this bad boy..lol
    im running at 3.7ghz with no problems i honestly think i can get 3.8-3.9 with very little increase in my vcore. but why for the little gain'd other than saying i did it.lol

    im very happy with the E8400............
     
  3. rick5446

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    Any body know a reliable site, where I can purchase this in the USA
    SAPPHIRE 100587 Radeon X600PRO 128MB 128-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card
    I ordered 1 yesterday for myself, but I need another 1 for my son-inlaws Computer. Today Newegg is out of stock what e Risser
     
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    rick does it have to be the exact card?? if not there are other choices to consider. ;)

    ....gm

    edit: Here's a few to look at, nothing special but near the same price and maybe even better. ;) linky for rick
     
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  5. rick5446

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    Or a card that will function the same, but a different brand. I guess I'll end up paying a little more
    Need the VIVO, PCI-E
     
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    but that's the point, you don't need to leave the 6850 at stock voltage. With the 8400 you do!
     
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    im not following you here sam????
    with the E8400 i have. im running at 3.7ghz at the stock volts 1.225v
    ive taken the volts up to help with the 4.0ghz i tried. ive taken them up to 1.300v no higer it let me run at that but i wasnt stable im sure if i took it up to 1.35v or even a little higher i could have gotten stable.

    Greensman has the E6850 at 3.6ghz i think he has his vcore up from stock, im not 100% sure on that so GM chime in here..lol

    i like greensman was going to get the E6850 until the E8400 came out when it was time to buy. and the E8400 was about $80-90 cheaper, so that was the selling point for me.
     
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    The cache is a bonus, but I'm sure you could make well beyond 4Ghz stable with a reasonable Vcore with the 6850 (say 1.43-1.45V that kind of area).

    By the way, in the UK the E6850 and E8400 are about the same price. The E6850 is £120 and the E8400 is £130.
     
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    here's a compairason from the E6750,6850,8400,8500
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2E16819115028,N82E16819115029,N82E16819115036

    all except the 8500 are under $200 a $20 difference from the 3.

    as far as the voltage goes im sure if i want to try and go up to 1.43-1.450v i could get 4.5+ stable. but with my temps i dont want to go that high,also. as with mort and his E3110 Xeon im sure as hell he could get 4.5ghz easy with a little more volts.

    dont get me wrong im not trying to argue which is better here they both are awsome CPU's the E8400 has the bigger L2 cache 6mb. and at the time like i said was 80 bucks cheaper. i think with a better board i could do even more with it than i have now. and thats not really much considering my knowledge of this stuff.

    i guess in the long run, im happy with what ive got and done with it. and thats all that matters if you/the builder is happy....lol

    :)
     
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    aren't we forgetting something?
    electronmigration anyone?
     
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    yes your 100% correct. but they were worried about that on the first batch of the E8400's since then intel has worked with that, letting you go with even higher volts and not have to worry with the electron migration.

    tbh im not gonna go that high with the voltage ar the OC. i tried 4.0ghz it ran with the little amount of volts i did add to it but im not going any higher for the fact of my heat issues plus im not 100% sure if i have one of them newer produced E8400's when intel sent me the new CPU

    like a wise man here once said to me. intel wants you to OC these cpu's so they can have the braggin rights. and they are going to do whats nesecary to allow us to do it. they arent going to flat out tell you yea go ahead and oc the hell out of our CPU's just for the fact of warranty issues. but they arent dumb, they know its gonna happen and they want there product to be the best...

    i'm sorry sam if youare thinking im messing with ya. im truely not. i am actually enjoying this. i can actually add something to the convo, that i know about...lol
     
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    rob I like these too. link
    If I was looking at one and already had a floppy then the SIIG might be the answer or if NOT looking for a floppy then the Silverstone with added Firewire and USB 2.0.... ;)

    Rob was right on what I did with the E6850... 3.7 stable but backed it down to 3.6 just because. :) I'm not sure if my limiting factor was me, the mobo, or the cpu BUT I gave up on trying to reach 4.0 just for the sake of it. lol. My system runs very cool for the OC and it's ABLE and STABLE!!

    rob it's nice being able to add something to the convo, innit?? :p

    ...gm
     
  14. rick5446

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    PCI E and PCI E x16 they are the same ? Aren't they
     
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    rick, no as they are 2 different type of slots. the pci/e 16 is a longer slot even longer then agp.
     
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    Not really... maybe this will help.. linky

    ...gm

    edit: rick this is actually a little better explanation than the other one. ;) link to PCI Express
     
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    hey look who it is. i didnt hear no thunder(the rumble before the lightning)lol hows it going ddp?

    rick the PCI-E slot is about a inch and a half long as the PCI-E 16 is like 3 1/2 inches long.
     
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    cinc, alright as just finished loading xp pro onto my desktop pc. still have 98 on it tho but might put that on a smaller external hd.
     
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    Haha surely the rumble comes after the lightning? :p

    You're right about the increased vcore limit, but from what I gather, it's still far more of a problem with 45nm CPUs...
     
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