The (new) Official PC building thread!

Just my opinion, but Vista in any form sucks! I've had to deal with Vista "Home" and Vista "Home Premiere"! First off, it's slow and nothing looks familiar in the system folder of the control panel! Not even the Icons! One I had here for repair, would sit there idling and crash. 3 times in 15 minutes. I installed a new 500GB hard drive in one and had to go through all sorts of crap calling M$ to authenticate the new drive. Bill Gates can keep his version of "Big Brother". I don't like being told what hardware, software or operating system I'm "allowed" to use. It's my computer, not Bill Gates's!

Russ

 

@Loco
Try this case...I have (2) of them...Nice Layout...It uses all 120mm fans...
Forget the Zalman...It is not worth the money...jm2c...
Black Cooler Master CM Media 280 HTPC / Desktop Computer Case, w/ VFD Display, 120mm Fan, Model: RC-280-KKN1-GP. $129
http://www.directron.com/rc280kkn1gp.html

 

sammorris,

Only when it comes to Relatives! :<}

 

got a question guys. about HDD's and boot order.

ive just cloned my 100gb from my 250gb. i have the 100gb pluged into the mobo now not hte pci-e card i got. i have my sata drive unpluged. the puter is up and running fine(other than this 100gb is 8mb cache and is slow) if i plug the sata drive back in. in the 01 slot instead of the 00 will it be seen as the secondary drive and boot up from the 100gb that i set the jumper pin in as master?

the reason for this is i want the 100gb to be the master for now. so i can do a complete format on the 250gb and then let windows see it as 250gb now that i have SP2 installed then i will clone the 100gb over to the 250gb....


oh yea. my temps seem to be going down the longer this thing seems to be running. im now when idleing my temps are in the mid to high 40's 46-49c and the cpu temp is in the high 20's 27-29c
right now im running orthos and the temp is only 56c been running about 22 mins

 

If you're using Arctic Silver that's normal as it has a set-in period during which temperatures will decrease.

 

ok . got my hdd situation worked out. i now have the 100gb(93 actually) is set as master. is kinda slow compaired to the 16mb cache of the 250gb. but thats ok and only temporary. the 250gb is set as slave and is showing 238gb which is normal after windows takes its 7% or so..lol

hdd's working right.
OS working fine now
temps are down. everything is great....

NOT:
ran sandra again. getting that unknown error again? not sure if its the mem or not thats causeing this like last time? i havent had any problems with BSOD or shut downs/reboots ect.

every other stress test i have. i ran and everything is fine. heck in orthos i just ran the test on mem only for 45 mins no problems. i think the sandra program dont like me..lol

kinda off topic here so i will post this link to my thread.
free dvds at officdepot.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/540688/4067424

 

Which Sandra test is this? I'll run it.

 

Russ, i have had vista 32-bit from july last year. not one BSOD, not one incompatibilty, and i wouldnt go back to XP.

then last month i moved to 64-bit. i didnt go once a day w.o a minimum of 3 BSODS (mostly down to Nvidia). then last week i moved back to 32-bit. no problems, untill i installed Nvidia BETA drivers. the newest ones came out yesterday, where as the newest WHQLs came out LAST DECEMBER!

the next build i do (September/October) I will not get Nvidia, however good they are, unless they sort out thier Drivers.

 

It's not that much better in the other camp I'm afraid...

 

when i had my x1900xt, i never had a problem.

and its been shown that on average, NVIDIA have caus the MOST BSODS in vista (28%) followed by Microsoft (17%)

 

the only time I have tried vista was when it came on my new laptop. it was vista home premium (or something like that). none of my older software was compatable with it. I reformated with XP the day after I got it. vista's gonna have to improve a whole bunch before I try it again.

 

its the burn in test sam. here is what i got from it just now.
SiSoftware Sandra

Display on Screen
Connection : Local Computer
Device Type : Desktop
Chassis Fan Speed : 879rpm (Min 879rpm; Avg 879rpm; Max 879rpm)
CPU Fan Speed : 19853rpm (Min 19853rpm; Avg 19853rpm; Max 19853rpm)
Power / Aux Fan Speed : 23276rpm (Min 23276rpm; Avg 23276rpm; Max 23276rpm)
CPU Voltage : 1.17V (Min 1.17V; Avg 1.17V; Max 1.17V)
Aux Voltage : 2.02V (Min 2.02V; Avg 2.02V; Max 2.02V)
+3.3V Voltage : 3.36V (Min 3.36V; Avg 3.36V; Max 3.36V)
+5V Voltage : 4.89V (Min 4.89V; Avg 4.89V; Max 4.89V)
+12V Voltage : 2.19V (Min 2.19V; Avg 2.19V; Max 2.19V)

Run 1 executing...

Burn-in Computer
Error : Unknown or undocumented error!


it dont show it but on the screen where it shows the fan speeds(mainly cpu speed) i have the yellow triangle with the ! mark in it????

edit: here ya go
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/burnin.jpg

 

try it now mort, esp with SP1.

 

if a C2D is this nice and fast when running all these different converting/editing/burning programs i bet a C2Q is even better... who wan to let me have there quad...lol

 

Shaff: Neither did I. It's when I moved to the HD3000 series that it all went pear shaped.
Rob: Ok, I'll have a look. Is the error pretty instantaneous or does it happen after a while?

Running the test it seems to progress normally...

 

the first time i ran it when i got everything back together it worked fine. never did it before. ran it a second time it worked fine.

now that i added my new monitor it wont run the burnin test. does everything else ffine but not the burnin..

 

well is that in Xfire, or just normal play?

and think about it the 9800pro has had more Driver updates than the 8800GTX in 2008. says something doesnt it?

tbh, crysis is the only game for an upgrade from the current series, so ill be happy getting a 4870 for about £200-£250.

maybe ill wait to see how the cards perform on Farcry 2, and how the driver support for either team will be.

 

Primarily A, but a considerable amount of B. No crossfire for me any more though sadly, installing the Arctic Accelero S1 rev 2 as per the instructions has cracked the die of the GPU. No warranty from anyone on the card means that it's completely worthless...

 

daye'am sam, WAT DID YOU DO :O