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The Official Budget-Conscious Dream Machine!

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by Praetor, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Even cooling-wise, I think the RC-690 can best the 900.
     
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    I would go for the RC960 every time. I beleive the cooling is better, but i also talk from Bias, i think the Antec 900 is a very ugly case, and im an avid hater of side windows and LED fans.

    I currently have the P182, which is great looking and cooling is good, 24 idle, and 35 load air cooled with E4500 O/C to 3.2Ghz.

    But what weird is i had a cheap Antler SK case which i doubt anyones heard of

    And that actually cooled better at 20 idle and 30 load.
     
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    @abuzar1
    as you know i also have the CM RC-690. you get 3 120mm fans with it from the factory.1 that is a blue led.blue led is in the front and then 1 on the side panel just infront of the cards and 1 in the rear.

    as you know from the other threads it will take 2 140mm fans on top which work great set as exhaust. the nyou ca nadd another 120mm or smaller if wanted on the side panel to have 2 fans there. and then 1 120mm fan on the bottom of the case(which i think should be set as intake) alot of air can be moved in this case.

    i myself was looking at the Antec 900 along with the 690 i got the 690 cause of price plus i can put 5 ODD in it only 3 in the antec 900 if you leave both the front fans hooked up on it.

    the RC-690 is a lttle heavy with alot of ODD and HDD in it just ask GM..lol you say you dont like the side window panels or led anymore.. if you get the 690 you do have the option if wanted to later to buy window side panel..

    here ya go a better price on the RC-690
    http://www.svc.com/rc-690-kkn1-gp.html
    also you can add a 140mm fan to the side panel. i didnt realise that until i just read the info on it.

    im not trying to sway you to the 690, but i have one and can inform ya on it the best. like i said i was gonna get the 900 first until i found the 690 and the price was a big difference. i actually paid $59 for mine with a $40 mir(that i havent gotten yet) so $19 for it i couldnt pass it up..lol

    talk with zoso he has the antec 900 he can tell ya about the cooling on it first hand
     
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    well well i talked that rebate up..lol
    i just checked the status of it and it has been mailed.

    now that all rebates are back it has cost me $685 for my build
    GA-P35-DS3R
    E8400
    EVGA 7600GT
    SEGATE 250GB SATA HDD
    CM RC-690
    CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR2 1066
    LITEON LH-20A1S
    ARTIC COOLER FREEZER 7 PRO
    CORSAIR TX650 PSU

    not bad at all huh?
     
  6. sammorris

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    The P182's not designed for top end cooling, it's designed for quietness, so it's expected that cheap cases could beat it.
    Personally I would recommend the RC-690 above all other reasons for quality of design. The Antec 900 is a pain in the backside to do certian things with (namely install the hard disks) and when I built a PC in a coolermaster case I just didn't have that option.

    I owned an Antec 900 for a while and got rid of it mainly because of the noise.
     
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    the P182 is in no way quite, even with the fans on the lowest setting it's still a loud bastard.
     
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    Ah, now that's why you use Scythe fans instead and undervolt them... ;-) Of course, that makes the cooling situation even worse, but Nick's file server has five 500Gb drives in it, and its almost entirely inaudible from more than a couple of feet away. My PCs are quiet, but they aren't quite that good! :)
     
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    Too be honest, on a personal level, im not too bothered about my PC being quiet, the noise from my pc doesnt bother me. if i am playing games i usually have headphones on and because its not in my bedroom i cant hear it if i leave it on all night.

    why do people sometimes insist on having silent pc's?
     
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    I do because I can watch films on it and not have to struggle to hear quiet sections (and put up with ambient noise) but also because my PC is in my bedroom and if it's quiet it can stay on all night if it's for example torrenting, without keeping me awake. Plus it's useful when you're working.
     
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    Rob, thanks for the link. I will probably buying that case on Friday. Also any recommendations on good but cheap 140mm fans?

    Remember, I don't care about quiet, but more about how much air it moves.
     
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    having a noisey pc isnt an option if you use it for audio recording work, mine is dual purpose but a have a fan controller so i can toggle the fan speed for when im gaming / recording down accoustic guitar and other mic'd up sources, you realy dont want to have to filter out any ambient background noise as it also strips out the harmonics on alot of sounds. plus as sam says , doing a long stint on a noisey computer is far more tiring than if you worked with a silent pc. something about a constant whir or hum that drains you mentaly.
     
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    yate loon D14SL-12 its not realy the best for output though only about 46cfm, but only 1000 rpm too.

    AeroCool do some 14cm fans too but they only output about 55 cfm,

    the larger fans dont realy kick out that much, I think the idea was to increase the fan size to reduce the rpm to lower the noise level, look for a 14cm to 12cm converter and put on a sythe kaze jyuni 1900rpm @ 110 cfm if you dont mind noise lol
     
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    Oh well, I wont be building another computer for a couple of months. I will just buy that case and put my old computer parts in it until I get better parts.
     
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    Aerocool Streamliners are the ones to have, because they're quiet and put out a reasonable amount of air. If you want lots of air though you should try and track these down: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=756696
    The 140CFM figure is complete bull, but they should manage almost 100 without making your ears bleed.
     
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    as is the 33dB lol
     
  17. sammorris

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    Actually no, 33dB at 1500rpm for a 14cm fan is doable.
     
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    my new £400 machine:

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  19. sammorris

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    With the exception of the RAM, some sound component choices there. I hope your powercolor card lasts longer than mine and my cousin's have though!

    I have to ask though, at nearly £30 for two gigs, why not get proper RAM? It's the same price!
     
  20. shaffaaf

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    because when Ocing that CPU you will never go over 400 FBS (400x10 = 4GHz) and if its rated to work at 400, and itll never reach it then why splash out something you do not need?
     

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