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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. harvrdguy

    harvrdguy Regular member

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    Wow shaff, the palace is LOOKIN GOOOOOOOD!

    Did you have them mod that clear side panel window for you so you could admire that awesome high-tech plumbing?

    What are all those lights in front?

    Your fav last shot is HOT! "Bow down to the Palace!"

    (I swear I like the way that aluminum shines. Almost every one I have seen comes with ceiling cut-outs to mount a vent fan. Or from shaff's pics obviously you can have them mod a setup for two ceiling vent fans or radiator cooling vents. I seriously now might have to consider Lian-Li.)
     
  2. sammorris

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    Actually I'm pretty sure the PC-A70B comes with the mounts for two top fans as standard, as do the Coolermaster RC-690 and NZXT Tempest.

     
  3. Estuansis

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    That room is a mess though, lol. I thought mine was bad. You can actually walk in here :D
     
  4. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    lol You think it's bad NOW? You should have seen his room a few weeks ago.

    Also, shouldn't great minds think differently?
     
  5. harvrdguy

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    No booze, it's just that your "great" mind thinks differently - because - ummmm - "you're special" that way. lol
     
  6. spamual

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    guys boozers gay, hes already insecure about that, dont tease him more...... :D

    yep i got the rhombus window installed, and the radiator cut out at the top, and the mobo cuts for the cables to be routed under the mobo (thats where they disapear to :D)
     
  7. harvrdguy

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    Well, I already knew that about boozer that's why I tried to be nice and say "special." Hahahaha.

    Good job on that case - seriously there is something so clean about aluminum - I don't know what it is. I was noticing the screws also on the bottom holding the case together and remembering "no rivets." Very nice photos - excellent looking case without a doubt!
     
  8. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Little something I'm working on courtesy of Bit-Tech, the minimum requirement for a particular game at a particular resolution, basing 30fps minimum / 60fps average, depending on which figure is provided.
    So far, 30" 2560x1600. (because it includes the least amount of data):
    (I have marked some Crysis tests (20fps) as this is the card needed to obtain a minimum of 20fps, an acceptable level in the game, 30fps minimums still included separately)

    Fallout 3: GTX260 or better, HD4870 1GB or better
    Fallout 3, AA: GTX260 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or better
    Far Cry 2: GTX260 SLI or better, HD4850 1GB Crossfire or better
    Far Cry 2, AA: GTX260 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or better (GTX295 and HD4870X2 2x only)
    Left 4 Dead: GTX260 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or better
    Left 4 Dead, AA: GTX280 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or better
    Call of Duty 4: 9800GTX or better, HD4830 or better
    Call of Duty 4, AA: GTX260 216 core or better, HD4870 or better
    GRiD: 8800GTX or better, HD4850 or better
    GRiD, AA: GTX260 or better, HD4850 1GB or better (2x only for 512MB cards)
    Devil May Cry 4: GTX260 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB or better
    Devil May Cry 4, AA: GTX280 SLI or better, HD4830 Crossfire or better
    Half Life 2 Ep2: 8800GTX or better, HD4850 or better
    Half Life 2 Ep2, AA: 9800GTX+ or better, HD4850 or better (2x only for 9800GTX+, HD4850)
    World in Conflict: GTX285 or better
    World in Conflict, AA: GTX280 SLI or better
    Crysis (DX10 High) (20fps): GTX280 SLI or better
    Brothers in Arms Hells Highway: GTX260 or better, HD4850 1GB or better



    24" Monitors:
    Fallout 3: GTX260 or better, HD4870 or better
    Fallout 3 AA: GTX280 or better, HD4870 1GB or better
    Far Cry 2 DX10: GTX260 or better, HD4850 1GB or HD4870 or better
    Far Cry 2 DX10 AA: GTX260 216 core or better, HD4870 1GB or better
    Far Cry 2 DX9: GTX260 or better, HD4870 or better
    Far Cry 2 DX9 AA: GTX280 or better, HD4870 1GB or better (2x only for current single cards)
    Crysis DX10 VH (20fps): GTX260 SLI or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire (not HD4870X2)
    Crysis DX10 VH AA (20fps): GTX260 216 core SLI or better (2x only for anything other than GTX280 SLI)
    Crysis DX10 Hi: GTX260 SLI or better
    Crysis DX10 Hi AA: GTX260 216 core SLI or better
    Crysis DX10 Hi (20fps): GTX280 or better, HD4850 Crossfire or better
    Crysis DX10 Hi AA (20fps): GTX260 SLI or better, HD4850 Crossfire or better
    Crysis DX9 Hi: GTX260 SLI or better
    Crysis Dx9 Hi AA: GTX260 216 core SLI or better (2x only for anything other than GTX280 SLI)
    Crysis DX9 Hi (20fps): GTX280 or better, HD4870 Crossfire or better
    Crysis DX9 Hi AA (20fps): GTX280 or better, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or better (2x only for GTX280)
    Call of Duty WAW: 8800 Ultra or better, HD4850 or better
    Call of Duty WAW AA: GTX260 or better, HD4870 or better (2x only for any 4870 setup)
    Call of Duty 4: 8800GS or better, HD4670 or better
    Call of Duty 4 AA: 9800GTX+ or better, HD4830 or better
    GRiD: 8800GS or better, HD4670 or better
    GRiD AA: 8800GT or better, HD4830 or better
    Half Life 2 Ep2: 8800GS or better, HD4670 or better
    Half Life 2 Ep2 AA: 8800GT or better, HD4830 or better
    Devil May Cry 4: GTX260 or better, HD4830 or better
    Devil May Cry 4 AA: GTX280 or better, HD4850 or better
    Left 4 Dead: 9800GTX+ or better, HD4830 or better
    Left 4 Dead AA: GTX260 or better, HD4870 or better
    Stalker Clear Sky: GTX280 SLI or better, HD4870 Crossfire or better
    Brothers in Arms Hells Highway: 8800GT or better, HD4850 or better

    20/22" monitors

    Fallout 3: 9800GTX+ or above, HD4850 or above
    Fallout 3 AA: GTX260 or above, HD4870 or above
    Far Cry 2 DX10: GTX260 or above, HD4850 or above
    Far Cry 2 DX10 AA: GTX260 or above, HD4850 1GB or above (1GB cards only, 2x only for HD4850 1GB and GTX260 192)
    Far Cry 2 DX9: GTX260 or above, HD4870 or above
    Far Cry 2 DX9 AA: GTX260 216 or above, HD4850 Crossfire or above (2 only for GT260 216)
    Left 4 Dead: 8800GT or above, HD4830 or above
    Left 4 Dead AA: 9800GT or above, HD4850 or above
    Crysis DX10 VH: GTX295 or above
    Crysis DX10 VH AA: GTX280 SLI or above
    Crysis DX10 VH (20fps): GTX260 SLI or above, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or above
    Crysis DX10 VH AA (20fps): GTX260 SLI or above
    Crysis DX10 Hi: GTX260 SLI or above, HD4870 1GB Crossfire or above (not HD4870X2)
    Crysis DX10 Hi AA: GTX260 SLI or above
    Crysis DX10 Hi (20fps): GTX260 216 or above, HD4850 Crossfire or above
    Crysis DX10 Hi AA (20fps): GTX280 or above, HD4870 Crossfire or above
    Call of Duty WAW: 9800GTX+ or above, HD4850 or above
    Call of Duty WAW AA: GTX260 or above, HD4850 1GB or above (inc 512MB HD4870) (2x only for HD4850 1GB)
    Call of Duty 4: 8600GTS or above, HD3850 or above
    Call of Duty 4 AA: 8800GS or above, HD4830 or above (2x only for 8800GS/9600GSO/9600GT)
    GRiD: 8600GTS or above, HD3850 or above
    GRiD AA: 9600GT or above, HD3850 or above
    Half Life 2 Ep2: 8600GTS or above, HD3850 or above
    Half Life 2 Ep2 AA: 8800GS or above, HD3870 or above (inc. HD4670)
    Devil May Cry 4: 8800GTS G92 or above, HD4830 or above
    Devil May Cry 4: GTX260 or above, HD4830 or above (2x only for HD4830)
    Stalker Clear Sky: GTX260 216 SLI or above, HD4850 Crossfire or above
    Brothers in Arms Hells Highway: 8800GTS 640MB or above, HD3870 or above


    Thanks again to Bit-tech.net for the figures to work this all out :)
    I hope to reference this in the future to recommend people graphics hardware with any particular game in mind.

    Crysis rough Compatibility list:

    Pre-X1000/7000 series, 7300, 7600, 7800, X1600, X1800, HD2600, HD3450, HD3650, HD4550, 8400GS, 8600GS, 8600GT, 9500GT: 800x600 Medium or less - upgrade
    X1900, X1950, 7900, 7950, 8600GTS, HD2900GT, HD4650, HD3850: 1024x768 Medium
    HD3870, HD2900XT, HD4670, 8800GS, 9600GT, 9600GSO: 1280x800 Medium
    HD4830, 8800GT, 9800GT: 1280x1024 Medium/High


    Comparative Performances
    7600GT: 910.6
    X1650XT: 1093.2
    HD2600XT: 1114.9
    8600GT: 1115.5
    7900GS: 1234.2
    8600GTS: 1458.0
    X1950 Pro: 1547.9
    X1950XT: 1784.4
    7900GT: 2070.3
    X1950XT-X: 2462.1
    HD3850: 2469.0
    8800GS: 2532.2
    HD2900 Pro: 2567.5
    8800GTS 320MB: 2631.1
    HD3850 512MB: 2656.7
    9600GT: 2757.8
    8800GTS 640MB: 2945.6
    HD4670: 2948.0
    HD2900XT: 3089.6
    HD3870: 3154.7
    8800GT: 3246.8
    8800GTS G92: 3615.6
    8800GTX: 3849.7
    9800GTX: 3905.5
    8800GTS 320MB SLI: 3972.5
    HD4830: 3999.1
    9800GTX+: 4134.3
    X1950XT-X CF: 4213.1
    8800 Ultra: 4229.2
    HD3870CF: 4395.0
    HD3870X2: 4513.1
    8800GT SLI: 4575.2
    HD4850: 4658.0
    8800GTS 640MB SLI: 4713.3
    HD2900XT CF: 4864.2
    GTX260: 5147.3
    GTX260 216: 5457.3
    9800GX2: 5730.1
    8800GTX SLI: 5768.5
    HD4870: 5893.4
    9800GTX+ SLI: 6075.1
    HD4870 1GB: 6169.6
    GTX280: 6207.4
    HD4850 CF: 7508.8
    GTX260 SLI: 8433.6
    HD4870X2: 8588.1
    HD4870 1GB CF: 8804.7
    GTX260+ SLI: 8941.5
    GTX295: 9118.7
    GTX280 SLI: 9776.2
     
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  9. Ray92

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    Thanks for that Sam

    I think it's bang on because, I play crysis at 1280x800 at medium and I have a 9600M GT which is actually weaker than the normal 9600 GT
     
  10. abuzar1

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    Shaf I'm getting tired of you calling me gay. Seriously dude. When you get some girls then you can come call me gay. Till then, kindly, STFU.
     
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  11. spamual

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    but im guarranted girls, as a pakistani, i have cousins ready :D

    sam, wow thats bloody impressive, one must have been mighty bored :D

    thats brilliant though, thanks for that
     
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    Chart updated.
    The figures are arbitrary, but derive from the total fps gained in several tests of older game benchmarks.
     
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    Sam, amazing amount of hard work! Are you writing tech articles - I seem to recall you saying something else about that - maybe on the builder thread. You certainly are qualified! That whole amazing post gets copied and pasted into a special reference text file. Looks like my 4850 1 gig idea is good - some of those tough titles will run with two of those cards in cf, if I eventually expand out like that.

    Boozer, shaff finally got to you with that gay bashing hahahaha. STFU - what does that mean exactly?? Hahahahaha. Where are YOUR cousins? Just kidding. So did you ever get the boat club going?? Shaffaaf is not content until he pisses everybody off from creaky and ddp and loco over to you and everybody in between LOL. I think the Buckingham Palace is going to his head - it's the aluminum inhalation - doesn't that cause Alzheimer's?? Hahahaha.
    Hmmmmmmm Shaff - are you there? Anybody home? Boozer brought some girls over. Why are you sitting there with glazed eyes staring at your fan controller? Hahahahahaha
     
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    My case is aluminium too, and I don't think I have alzheimer's yet... :p
    Thanks for the appreciation Rich, it's all taken from Bit-tech's figures, but I'd love to set up a hardware review site. For a start, it would mean free stuff :)
     
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    Yeah, as if after that killer deal on the 4870x2 you need to get anything for free! .....
     
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    The Aluminium on both Shaff's and my case is brushed/coated, so the bare metal is never in contact with the skin unless you're working inside.
     
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    Sam, which aluminum case is that? I have the Lexa on my newegg wish list of all possible new build options, and it says "plastic and steel case." Are you referring to your server?

    Well, the aluminum scare got me out of the habit of cooking meat on aluminum foil, but other than that I'm not too concerned. But maybe I should be more concerned, I certainly have my share of "dumb" moments... (... as all my cussing at myself in the first 4 hours of getting up to speed on COD4 mp each week proves! LOL)
     
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    The plastic is only the front, the rest is aluminium.
    The Blacklie, my server case, is steel.

     
  19. spamual

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    right, maxed out GTA IV, benchamrk, but couldnt get above 47 on the draw distance, i apparently maxed out the RAM... LOL

    but i got 43 FPS!!!!!

    im happy about that. though in game, its dropped to 20 once :(
     
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    The benchmark is nowhere near as demanding as the real game, that should give you an idea of just how badly coded the game is. Maxing the textures even at your res uses about 1.4GB of video RAM, and since no GPU currently has that, it's for 'future video cards only'. To the game's credit, the 256MB console cards use 10% quality settings and minimum textures.
     

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