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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. shaffaaf

    shaffaaf Regular member

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    bfg are a very good brand.

    i would check which games i played (at my resolution) and find benchmarks for them too see which card runs them best
     
  2. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Still $35 more than the HD4850, and not much faster at all. I'd still stick with the 4850 really. The HD4850 would have to be $20 more expensive for me to buy the GTS250.
     
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    I couldn't find enough specs for the HD4850 and I don't know if sapphire is a good brand as well. Also, the sapphire hd4850 is smaller than the gts250 right? If it is, then I might reconsider it. I'm really picky when it comes to this so pardon me. But anyway, I just realize that my system is only DDR2. And the xfx gts250 is DDR3. Will it still work on my system? (I really feel like Am a heavy burden on u guys for asking such stupid questions)
     
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  4. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Sapphire is an excellent brand, and the HD4850 is a direct rival to the GTS250 on specification. Graphics memory is completely unrelated to system memory, you don't need DDR3 to use a graphics card with GDDR3.
     
  5. omegaman7

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    I wouldn't feel that way. Though I do sometimes LOL! We all have to start somewhere. I've heard that saphire is pretty good. BFG is pretty good too. I believe it's an american brand too. I have a BFG. Most solid GPU I've bought to date. Though I haven't bought much. An ASUS 8600GT(very nice), And an XFX 6200(P.O.S.), and my current BFG GTX 260(Incredible!). Those three are the only ones I've bought to date.
     
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    You can hardly blame XFX for the 6200 being a rubbish card now :p
     
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    LOL! I'm over it. In fact I moved on quickly. I realize they're one of the leaders in cutting edge graphics hardware :)
     
  8. shaffaaf

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    depends on what happened to the card
     
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    Russ has it...
     
  10. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    True, I assumed he meant the performance of it, rather than a fault.
     
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    I believe it was faulty. Russ couldn't get it to work properly either.
     
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    No need to feel that way, that's partly what this thread is for. I'll be abusing AD threads once again when I'm closer to doing my next build lol.

    It should have had a lifetime warranty; RMA it (if you want at this point).
     
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    I could care less about its warranty at this point. They'd probably replace it with a similar model, which I can't use at this point. I only have one PC with AGP, and I don't use it anymore...
     
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    yeah i think they will upgrade it to a 9400/G210 aswell.
     
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    guys, the sapphire hd4850 is smaller compared to its rival gts250 right??? If so, then I will reconsider it.

    EDIT: Can someone please post the physical specs of hd4850. Length and Width please. Thank you very much!
     
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    It's about the same size I think.
     
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    Bioshock 2 Benchmark is out, and for once, it's a game a normal PC can run, hooray! The game seems to favour nvidia hardware by a reasonable margin, but nothing too severe.

    1280x1024
    Minimum 20fps: HD3850/HD4750/HD4830/HD5670 or 8800GS/9600GSO G92/GT240
    Minimum 30fps: HD4750/HD4830/HD5750 or 9600GT/8800GT/GT240
    Minimum 40fps: HD4770/HD4850/HD5750 or 9800GT/8800GT/GTS250
    Minimum 50fps: HD4870/HD5770 or 8800 Ultra/9800GTX/GTS250
    Minimum 60fps: HD4890/HD5830 or GTX260

    1680x1050
    Minimum 20fps: HD3870/HD4750/HD5670 or 8800GS/9600GSO G92/GT240
    Minimum 30fps: HD4750/HD4850/HD5750 or 9800GT/8800GT/GT240
    Minimum 40fps: HD4860/HD5770 or 8800GTX/9800GTX/GTS250
    Minimum 50fps: HD4890/HD5830 or GTX260
    Minimum 60fps: HD5830 or GTX260-216

    1920x1080
    Minimum 20fps: HD3870/HD4750/HD4830/HD5750 or 8800GT/9600GT/GT240
    Minimum 30fps: HD4770/HD4850/HD5750 or 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250
    Minimum 40fps: HD4870/HD5830 or GTX260
    Minimum 50fps: HD5830 or GTX260-216
    Minimum 60fps: HD5850 or GTX275 (not GTX280)


    Extrapolating from these tests, an HD5870 is likely to manage 40fps minimum, 70fps average at 2560x1600. Not too shabby but to run the game flawlessly at 30", dual graphics are going to be needed in some form.
    A GTX285 by comparison is likely to score something like 34fps minimum, 60fps average at 2560x1600.





    Using the data provided by GameGPU.RU, I've drawn up some 'thresholds' that would be a much better version of the minimum requirements printed on the box for games. It's too large to print here, so I will submit it to pastebin instead:

    http://pastebin.com/f681f0b1e
     
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  18. Estuansis

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    Looks good Sam. As always appreciate the charts they do help out ;P

    I couldn't have expected much more. Bioshock 2 is based on the same Unreal 2.5 build as Bioshock 1. They still haven't jumped it to UE3. It looks good though I was never a huge fan of the original. I much prefer military shooters vs stretched out philosophical journeys. I played and beat the first though so I'm almost obligated to continue the story :p
     
  19. sammorris

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    Although I wouldn't say it's the best game I've played, I enjoyed the original Bioshock and am eager to play the next one. The last time I tried, however, Bioshock was hopelessly incompatible with Crossfire, so I'm hoping that doesn't extend to the sequel...
     
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    Interesting as Bioshock works great for me with Crossfire :S

    On another note I discovered the ancient(circa 2001) Mech Warrior 4. How did I miss this game? It's the best mech simulator I've ever played! I mean WTF the game is incredibly fun! Rediscovering old games lately. GT3 is still my current addiction :S
     
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