The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

i really dont see ay phenom holding it back tbh.

 

At below 2560 resolution, a card like the HD5970 is going to be CPU-limited relatively often. My Q9550 held my pair of X2s back compared to my i5, so that should say enough.

 

At below 2560 resolution, a card like the HD5970 is going to be CPU-limited relatively often. My Q9550 held my pair of X2s back compared to my i5, so that should say enough.

 

depends on the game no? plus yeah it might be a little held back but hell gain much more from going ot a 5970 which will lat a long time aswell rather than getting a better CPU and omega, if your current CPU will hold it back, so will the 6 core. games just cant take advantage. thats not to say it wont though

 

hi im thinking of adding a second 5870 some time within the next few months, and just wanted some advice on power consumption and if i will have to upgrade my psu.
i also wanted to know what the best 5870 i could get , as there are the new 2 gb versions like the sapphire toxic one and the new asus matrix and some 1gb versions the asus v2 and the gigabyte superclocked

my pc specs now are :
Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 stock speed 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), overclocked speed ~3.54GHz

Memory:
6144MB RAM

Hard Drive:
319 GB

Video Card:
ATI asus Radeon HD 5870 Series

Monitor:
40" samsung led tv

Sound Card:
ATI HDMI Output (ATI High Definition Audio Device)

Speakers/Headphones:
creative 5.1 surround sound

Operating System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Motherboard:
gigabyte intel x58

Computer Case:
NZXT Lexa s

power supply: corsair 750w modular

cooling corsair h50 closed water cooling unit and a few case fans

 

Omega

Sam

Sam is correct mine is S-PVA. One of the best quality displays I have ever used. Have a few friends running 1920 as well but on TN panels AFAIK. Of course TN has vastly improved in recent years(as has been the case with my actually decent Acer 22") but still doesn't touch S-PVA.

One of my buddies just got the 1090T with a CoolIt Eco 120. Runs cool and a surprising amount of games will use it. BFBC2 in particular took a decent jump in performance with his twin 5870s... Coming from a 940 @ 3.4 to a 6 core at 3.8 as well but task manager performance tab shows all 6 being used in BC2 and maybe a 20% jump in FPS.

 

Ah well, they're being used but how much are they being used? Games can sometimes use multiple cores, but to such an extent that they're effectively using the same number as before (for example, 100% on two cores versus 50% on four). Bad Company 2 is, to be fair, one of very few games that multithreads well, but given that the 1090 at 3.8 vs the 940 at 3.4 is a good 15% or so performance benefit by itself, 20% extra frames isn't saying much. Personally, I would always say go with a Quad core at most for a gaming system right now unless you give something other than gaming first priority.

 

Encoding is definitely 1st priority xD

If I here of a GOOD X264 encoder, that can utilize 6 cores, I'll jump on the 1090t.

I wonder if S-PVA is technology that was used on my brothers last HDTV. It was too cheap a display to be S-IPS. And the picture was rather stunning It was a Dynex 40".

Its quite unfortunate that retailers are not required to explain their products further. People like myself want to know what they're buying. Not even Dynex's website tells what technology their LCD panel is. Is it S-PVA, S-IPS...I may never know

 

Mind you he's at 1920 as well and it does hit a video limit at spots too. Apparently it worked wonders for his minimums. I don't think it goes below 60 for him at the same settings as me. 1920 x 1200 Dx10 Maxed 4xAA.

I think he mostly did it for the lulz though. 4GHz 1090T, 2 x 4GB DDR2-1066, MA-790FX-UD4P. Nice system actually.

 

I think most TVs are TN, but some models use S-PVA and IPS types.


DDR2 1066 on a Phenom X6?

 

Why not? It performs the same as DDR3 for the most part. He already had an AM2+ board so he figured "eh what's the difference?" Dropped the CPU right in and commenced OCing right away. As far as I'm concerned as well, there's no practical difference unless buying new. Why make the big platform upgrade if your current one will do the same exact thing with the older components? I mean, hell look at me. DDR2-800 on an X4. And a better OC than I've seen with 90% of original PHIIs. Granted mine is AM2+ only but still...

Yeah and on AM2+ with DDR2, he made 4GHz with just a notch above stock voltage. 30 runs passed IBT high stress level. Only topped at 52*C load with a stock CoolIt ECO.

If DDR3 would make a difference, please, show me where...

Oh yeah he does fold for a team and does video work so it's not going to waste either...

 

52C with a Coolit eco? If that's true, I may not see much improvement at all. I've barely seen over that with the Tuniq tower...

 

Consider this is a 6 core at 1.5v and 4GHz. The Tuniq it replaced touched 60 frequently. It's not my build though so what can I really tell you of the fine details? All I know is that he plans to replace the fan pretty soon because the stock one is weak. I would expect he sits maybe 48-50 with a better fan. Which for that CPU is downright frozen. Also consider my Tuniq and 940 hit about 55 under IBT load. He's got two more cores and .05 more volts. I daresay that's an improvement.

 

Hmmm, so something like the Coolit Eco may be darn near necessary for 6 core CPU's overclocked. Though perhaps I would have better results, given my High airflow case And soon to be better air flow Though airflow would only help other areas of the board. Russ's coolit is apparently doing quite well though. But it's not a 6 core behemoth. I imagine a larger heatsink, coupled with a better pump, would pull even more heat. Gonna have to get one of those coolits, and see what kind of results I can achieve.

 

Just for the record, this is the guy I got my AMD side panel from for the HAF. Yeah he has a HAF too.

 

Oh, that makes more sense. I thought you said "stand in front of cover" whereas I would have said "stand behind cover" so I misunderstood. I was thinking "How noobie are these guys when Dirty Harry Red stands right out there in the open shooting them between the eyes!" LOL

Sounds more like my kind of game - no kidding the "oldschool" BF2 maps are immense!! Maybe the BF guys picked up some pointers from cod4 mp with more manageable map sizes.

Double! What's that mean, kevin, your life and when you put the graphics card in your will, also for the life of your kid ???? Hahahaha.

Yeah, but don't you want 4 gigs of memory on the card instead of the 2gigs in your link? I know it's more important to have the memory at higher resolutions than 1920x1200, but you might eventually, (cheap or not LOL) spring for a 2560x1600 monitor one day.

Jeff I just read some reviews on the coolit - and it sounds pretty good for very little money - however just a tad noisy with that 1800 rpm 120mm fan. Your friend who has the coolit has a HAF you mentioned - as does Sam and Kevin. AFAIK the HAF is set up to put a radiator next to one of the big 240 mm fans - is that right - is that where your friend put the radiator?

Rich

 

Yah, one day I will DEFINITELY have the higher resolution monitors. They're just so damned expensive at present. Not to mention the 4gb 5970. The sapphire alone is pushing 1,000$. I don't know when I'll have those kind of funds LOL! Definitely one day though Too bad I can't sell my soul

 

watch supernatural (tv program) you wouldnt want to sell you soul

 

Jeff: Nah you're probably right, AMD CPUs are more about the latencies than the raw memory speed, so there's not much to gain from DDR3 anyway.
After seeing the 4GB 5970 top $1100 that's a bit too much, it would work out far less for me to buy two Eyefinity6 cards, so I'll probably do that.

 

Yeah, I saw a couple of episodes - that one interesting British guy named Conway or something - he's really a demon of some type but an enemy of Lucifer and he wants to help the two brothers put Lucifer back in some type of confinement. I saw two episodes - my HD non-connoisseur brother is a big fan. The last one I saw, he tells this one guy to let him have the guy's soul - but just for a bit - then he'll give it right back! What happened then Shaff - did the guy regret giving his soul to Conway?

Kevin wouldn't regret it - he'd have his 30", and the 4 gig 5970 to drive it! All for only $2500 and the temporary loan of his soul!