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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. Estuansis

    Estuansis Active member

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    Yes but also in 2560 I thought. The Q6600 is not that much faster clock-for-clock than the E4300 either. The L2 Cache does make a difference but not much. A 5000+ will get the same frames in 2560 as a quad. And AFAIK Crysis does NOT YET use quads. The update hasn't come out yet or won't. Check your core usage during a run through. I retract my previous elation about your performance until then :p

    Your bottleneck HAS to be graphics. AFAIK, resolution doesn't affect the CPU in any way. I think either something else is going on, or the 4870X2 is just really that powerful to where it needs every ounce of power you can give it. I dunno, it confounds me as to why the E4300 was such a bottleneck. You'd think a 3.2GHz Core 2 Duo would be adequate, especially for high res Crysis. The video has to be the bottleneck, it just has to. It makes no sense...

    http://www.gamespot.com/features/6182806/p-6.html

    I don't know if Gamespot are reliable, but that looks pretty conclusive to me. It's not showing an advantage on the quad here... What is your OC at for the Q6600?

    Also, I don't agree with them on the memory. 2GB minimum for Crysis. 1GB DOES have a bad effect. The hitching can make the game completely unplayable.
     
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  2. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    That's bull, no offense. Age of Conan and Crysis reported 80-90% increases. You don't get that just from cache alone. Every other title got about a 10-12% boost at the same clock speed, that is from the extra cache.

    E4300, HD4870 21fps
    E4300, HD4870X2 25fps
    Q6600, HD4870X2 46fps
     
  3. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    So quad cores are worth it?

    WHOO I WAS RIGHT. And everyone says games don't support quad cores.
     
  4. sammorris

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    For the most part they don't, I still have to stress that. However, to say that those that do don't offer significant gains is a lie. They are completely transformed by it.
     
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    there are some recent games that support quad cores. like mass effect and assassins creed. also most games coming out in the future will support it.
     
  6. Estuansis

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    My Q6600 is getting here today :D

    I'm excited to see what a quad will do for my Crysis performance. Maybe it will be bottlenecked by the card. But I hope that's not the case and the card can go higher than sams benchmarks have shown.

    I knew Age of Conan supported quad core. It has the "Use all available Cores" option or something like that, correct?
     
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  7. sammorris

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    It should still give you some gains, but not sure how much.
     
  8. Estuansis

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    It's here! I'll post again when I'm done setting up!
     
  9. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    It takes two days to setup? lmao
     
  10. Estuansis

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    Sorry. Been busy with college and work and stuff :p

    Anyways, WHOO!!! It's a G0!! And working temp sensors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lapped the Q6600 and lapped the Tuniq Tower this time. I did it by backing the sand paper with a piece of glass, so they should both be perfectly flat. I also used the line method for thermal paste to cover all four cores. Fan on the cooler at 100%.

    Idle Temps

    Core0 - 28*C
    Core1 - 29*C
    Core2 - 28*C
    Core3 - 29*C


    Orthos full load after 15 minutes

    Core0 - 45*C
    Core1 - 46*C
    Core2 - 45*C
    Core3 - 46*C

    I'd say these are happy temps :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!

    OCing shall take place in short time. This thing is sweeeeeeeet!!!
     
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  11. abuzar1

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    lol Glad to see how excited you are. What's the VID on the chip(make sure you turn off speedstep when you check this).
     
  12. Estuansis

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    The VID is 1.25v. Speedstep is for chumps... lol

    It certainly does run cool. I'm surprised :p
     
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    Aha, you lucky sonofabitch.
     
  14. Estuansis

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    I'm apparently oblivious to something good. Is a 1.25 VID uncommon for Q6600's???
     
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    Yes. The new Q6600s are all 1.325v.
     
  16. Estuansis

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    Well I lucked out then! Sweet!

    3.4GHz is my goal. That's what I'll get. I might even drop the multi to 8 and take the FSB to 425. I wonder how it would take the higher FSB...

    You know what's funny? Even with high-end parts in it, it's still a fairly budget oriented machine. I could have easily spent twice as much...
     
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    YEah, but the performance gains would have been minimal. Certainly not twice as much.
     
  18. Estuansis

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    The Q9450 was sort of a gamble. I am perfectly content with a Q6600 :)

    I hope to finally test out this HD4870. It's sitting there growling at me, lol.
     
  19. sammorris

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    Don't all of the Q6600s have working temp sensors? I thought it was just the 45nm ones...
    You did well getting an older 1.25Vcore chip this late, congrats on that.
    From benches I've looked at, there isn't much of a difference between the scores of the Q9450 and Q6600 even in arithmetics. With a low VID, you should get a good overclock out of your chip.
     
  20. mrk44

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    hm, I have an 8800 Ultra card here that won't display at all...I know it sends out a signal because the screen flashes, but it won't show anything on screen after...Being used on a ASUS Striker II Extreme. What do you think? Any hope for this card?
     

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