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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Are you sure it's the card and not the motherboard? :S It is a striker after all...
     
  2. Estuansis

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    I just thought it was a good thing because the sensors on the Q9450 didn't really work at all.

    That's nice to hear. But after some research, even the 1.25v chips aren't guaranteed OCers. Some people had problems past 3.2GHz. So we'll see :p

    Yeah, I'd be more apt to blame the board. ASUS have really slipped in quality in the last few years. Can you test the card in a different machine and see if it's the same?
     
  3. sammorris

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    It's not necessarily the fact that it's Asus, it's a Striker, they're the worst of all Asus' mobos, with the possible exception of the P5N-E.
     
  4. mrk44

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    Nah it's not the board. I tried my 8800GTS in it and it worked just fine. I didn't get a chance to test the card in my computer...
     
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  5. sammorris

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    RMA it then, 8800 Ultras aren't that old...
     
  6. Estuansis

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    Yeah, if the card doesn't work, your best bet is an RMA. You'd need precision equipment to work on a PCB. And a software problem is unlikely.
     
  7. Estuansis

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    Ok, I have it at 3.4. Nice and easy! 378FSB x 9 multi = 3.402GHz 1.387v. RAM at 945MHz with a 2.5 multi. 4-4-4-12 CL

    Temps for the cores:

    Idle

    Core0 - 31*C
    Core1 - 32*C
    Core2 - 31*C
    Core3 - 32*C

    Orthos 15 min.

    Core0 - 49*C
    Core1 - 50*C
    Core2 - 49*C
    Core3 - 50*C

    I think it was a good OC. I think my TIM application was about perfect and I got to keep my volts down :D The temp increase was minimal as well. The Tuniq Tower is my best friend :p

    It's burning in now. I won't use it if it doesn't hold up to stress.

    BTW, my 3dmark 06 score at stock 2.4GHz was 14,400. My score at 3.4GHz was 15,113.
     
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  8. sammorris

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    Does it IntelBurntest like that? If so, you have an excellent chip, as I can't get a stable result at that speed without going above 1.5V.
     
  9. Estuansis

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    Okay, I gave it a try. Wow, this loads my CPU way higher.

    30 minutes load temp:

    Core0 - 59*C
    Core1 - 61*C
    Core2 - 59*C
    Core3 - 61*C

    Are the temps supposed to exactly proportionate like that? Or are they supposed to vary? Core 0 and 2 seem to even out the same no matter what as well as cores 1 and 3. Good TIM application and lapping helped maybe?

    No crashes anyway. It made the full half hour...
     
  10. sammorris

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    I had that as well. So IntelBurnTest, at 1/2 load, 5 runs. Does it pass?
     
  11. abuzar1

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    It's actually recommended to run 10 or more and using ALL Your ram. Try that and see how it goes. Use realtemp and it will tell you your highest temp ever reached.
     
  12. Estuansis

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    Oh my poor compy :(

    I'll see what I can do...

    Intel Burn Test gave me a clean bill of health on the max run for 30 minutes. It pushed my temps a full 10*C higher than Orthos. Some are reporting jumps of up to 20*C from Orthos. Tuniq FTW.

    The reported max temp according to RealTemp is 63*C on Core1.

    Oh well. The 4870 benches within spec. So I'll be doing some game tests shortly. Tomorrow Though... bed time :)
     
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  13. abuzar1

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    lol Mine got up to 70! But my CPU and Cooler were not lapped. Plus I had a Xeon so heat wasn't really an issue.
     
  14. spamual

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    the reason mainly why intel burn test kills is due to the memory test. i think for the most part, if orthos can run 4 hours or 2 hours with OCCT on the CPU your fine, but the memory, and subsequently the NB is tested very very extremely
     
  15. harvrdguy

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    Hey Estuansis,

    Thanks for the help with the minimum crysis hardware requirements. I am now having major second thoughts about dumping any more money into my p4. You guys have been telling me this for some time - maybe I'll just start the new build.

    I notice you recommended a 4850. Ultimately I might run two boards crossfire. Let's say they turned out to be two 4870s one day. Factoring in 20% capacitor aging, what do all you guys think I should get in terms of a minimum power supply that will last me for a couple years, and ultimately cross-firing two boards - 750?

    Regarding crysis, I downloaded the TOD file. Thanks for the explanation, estuansis. Wow, you got an extra 5 fps using this tool - awesome! And thanks also for the description of Battlefield Vietnam. It sounds good - I'm making a mental note to go on ebay and pick it up.

    Abuzar has a new sig - looks good booze! Hey Shaff, did you ever get any calls on that great Craig's list ad you had?

    I see the new interest in quad core for crysis - sam is showing 80% gain! Estuansis is skeptical but we'll soon be hearing about the results with his new Q6600. By the way, is Tuniq Tower a better cooler than the HIS? I remember a year ago an anandtech review showing HIS at the top.
     
  16. spamual

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    HIS make the best gfx coolers, tuniq make one of the best CPU coolers.

    and no i didnt get any calls, and any emails were scams :(

    tried to put it on ebay but people were to stingy
     
  17. harvrdguy

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    Well, Shaff, that was still an excellent Craig's list ad "Mo's computer kingdom." I still think you need a little hook - "I'll put my many year's of experience to work and help you build an over-clocked crysis-killing gaming rig for cheap - 10% surcharge over my cost of parts!"

    Well the anandtech article I read was about cpu cooling - HIS had just come out with a newer cooler with a few more heat pipes - and anandtech was skeptical, but the tests confirmed the effectiveness of the new design - like I say, this was about a year ago. -Rich
     
  18. sammorris

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    Hi again Rich. I'm running an overclocked Q6600, and a 4870X2 which uses every bit as much power as two 4870s in crossfire, on a 520W Corsair HX. That may be a bit on the tight side, but it works. I would recommend either the 620HX or 650TX if you use the X2, a 750TX or 850 Zalman (purely because it's much quieter than the 750 Zalman) if you use two 4870s - not due to power consumption, but the fact that two 4870s require four PCIe power connectors. You could use adaptors, but to be honest, I think they're a bit risky.
     
  19. harvrdguy

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    Sam,

    Hi. That sounds good - zalman 850. Hey Sam, there are divergent opinions. Some reviewers say that a psu with a 120mm fan, leaves less room for heat sinks, etc. But we all know that an 80mm fan makes more noise to move the same amount of air. Has it been well-established by now that the better quality PSUs with 120mm fans are just as good as the 80s - for example PCP&C use a rear 80 I believe.
     
  20. sammorris

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    120mm fan PSU is a requisite for more than 450W. The 80mm fan big units like the PCP&C and OCZs are hideously loud.
     

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