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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. shaffaaf

    shaffaaf Regular member

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    i would go for the 2560x1440 monitor. Its just so sexy!

    but i would go for the apple conema display version instead.

    as for 24 inch monitors, you can find non tn 1080p monitors now.
     
  2. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    Don't get me started :p You make me jealous talking about insane resolutions LOL! It's not fair. I would love a 30" Dell more than any of you guys :p Sorry, you're gonna have to trust me on that.
     
  3. Estuansis

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    That'll help for colors and black levels but AFAIK it's still a matter of resolution vs size no matter what panel is used. To get image quality anywhere near my 2407 you would need to get one of the 21.5" 1080p panels. The 23" will not be as good, even with a better panel. Standard 30" 2560 screens have better image quality than that, and the ones UNDER 30" even better sill :p
     
  4. shaffaaf

    shaffaaf Regular member

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    oh i agree but will you really notice it, unless you compare them side to side? i know i cant tell when im using one of mine vs the other till im using both together
     
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    I certainly do notice it right away. Even without my Acer to compare to directly, I could easily tell you whether or not a monitor has a high pixel pitch just by using it. It especially makes a difference for gaming. High fidelity titles like Crysis, Source, BC2 are all drastically improved disregarding the actual resolution. Something like my 22" 1680 x 1050 Acer or any of the 23.6" 1080p panels can't hold a candle. Now 21.5" 1080p is a different story, but were talking similar to my 2407, still nowhere near a 2560 panel. So yes if image quality is important to you in any way, the difference is immediate.

    If I had to get a brand new monitor right now I'd be going for 27" at 2560 x 1600 for the sheer image quality, as opposed to 30" at the same resolution.

    Ofc this is all subjective
     
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    The 3007WFP, 3008WFP and their successor the U3011, have a very similar pixel density to smaller monitors like the 2407/2408/2410.

    The highest pixel density desktop display currently is the U2711, which is a fabulous display, and also the best value of the entire Dell Ultrasharp series. Spectacular display, I would heartily recommend one to anybody. Unless you have relatively poor eyesight or will be sitting at a distance from the monitor far greater than normal, then you will have no problems reading the text. Don't forget, everything in windows vista/7 can be zoomed with ctrl+mousewheel.

    I would definitely take the Dell over the Apple. The 27" Cinema is a whopping £220 more expensive than the Dell equivalent, and the Apple has no connectivity to any standard display connector. All you get with the Apple is a mini-displayport connector. For any other input, you need an adapter.

    With the U2711, you not only get two Dual-link DVI, an HDMI and Regular displayport, you also get VGA, component and composite as well. It's near enough an HDTV but without the tuner. 7 times as many inputs, for £220 less, with the same display panel in it? The Dell is a no-brainer.
     
  7. shaffaaf

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    but but led! And its sexy!
     
  8. sammorris

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    An LED backlight is not worth £200 plus having a greatly inferior monitor, let's be honest...
     
  9. Red_Maw

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    Thanks for all the info/comments guys.

    Do they even make those? That's what I was originally looking for but was under the impression that they don't exist yet.


    Now I want to get the U2711 again, but dang they're expensive....could buy a 6990 instead and save money lol.

    Once again thanks for the input.
     
  10. sammorris

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    The U2711 is 2560x1440 at 27". There's no such thing as a 27" 2560x1600 sadly, but close enough :p

    The U2711s are 90% of the pixel count of the 30", 81% of the size, but only 60% of the price here in the UK, they're a comparative steal.
     
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    Wow, the U2711 could be a good idea one day. I definitely like the idea of the largest possible monitor though. But as people have said, mega resolution = mega hardware upgrade ;) E.g. expensive graphics hardware. A lot to commit to. Though I suppose running games at 1920 x 1200 on the 30" dell wouldn't look too bad :p Or would it?
     
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    It'd look crap, unless you 1:1 pixel mapped them into a 23" box.
     
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    Mmm hmm. I think I understand. Aww well. I can't afford it right now anyway. Sure wish I had a second income :(
     
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    Yeah that's another draw back, I'd have to do that for games since I can't afford gpu power for it's native res lol.
     
  15. sammorris

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    If you want a big display but can't afford a high-end monitor or the graphics power to run it just buy an HDTV.
     
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    I'm after the high pixel count, not the display size. 27" is actually bigger than I really wanted but without stepping down to 1920x1200 there really isn't anything smaller. I have a 15.4" 1920x1080 laptop screen that I really like, and to me looks better than any of the 20-24" 1920x1080 monitors I've seen (haven't seen that many though).
     
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    Are there actually 16:10 HDTVs? I doubt it. I suppose that at say 40", 16:9 is nothing to sneer at ;) But locating tv's that don't have under/overscan seems to be somewhat difficult. (Though I suppose it is easily corrected with Nvidia control panel/Ati Control Center).

    One day, 2560 x 1600 may be the most common resolution, while larger resolutions will be what Sam runs :p We are no doubt years from such a reality though.
     
  18. shaffaaf

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    ahh the day when one can run 3x 3D 2560x1440 boarderless OLED monitors from a single GPU poweredby one 6 PIN power connector!



    that will be the day hehe
     
  19. omegaman7

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    Tall order LOL! Nah, it'll happen one day. The industry accomplishes remarkable feats everyday ;)
     
  20. sammorris

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    2560x1600 is a rare breed, it will never take off, not now all the focus on high definition has moved to 16:9. 2560x1440 may start becoming common, but honestly the next big thing will be 3840x2160. The middle man will likely get bypassed altogether.


    In other news, the HD6990 is out, expensive, and performance graded:

    GTX570 SLI: Performance Index 365 (up from 360)
    HD6990: Performance Index 385 (New entry)
    HD6970 Crossfire: Performance Index 410 (reference point)
    GTX580 SLI: Performance Index 450 (up from 430)
     

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