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itll be about £170-180.

which is bang on the price of the 4870.

i guess ill wait for the benches to come and we shall see.

btw ordering my case tomrrow, so i will have to find a digi cam to get up picks when it comes

and the 3850 trinity is old news, there have been loads of reviews since march

shame its not a consumer product.

 

Ehh, why release a 3850 card now?

 

Never saw any benches until this, so I didn't realise it was an old project, all I saw were the typical inquirer / engadget style pages saying it was going to appear eventually...

 

ahh that explains it.

i did link reviews of it a while ago.


boozer they didnt release it, its press only

 

Hmmmmm,

The trinity 3850. So you're saying Sam, that I should wait until they adapt that to agp, instead of the cheap sapphire I was going to pick up for my P4? Lol

(Oh yeah, since estuansis laid out the $800 estimate for me, I'm back to thinking about maxing the p4 for $200 and putting off the new build until the 4870x2 or 4850x2 get cheaper, or the new product family 5870 is launched. The new build has to have the horses to run Crysis at the patched very high mode - for decent shadows - probably at 1650 x 1080. Hey Sam, does your dell scale to that resolution very well?)

Shaff, what case are you picking up - the NZXT that Sam recommends?

Booze, why the new user name. Did you follow Shaff into ban city? Where'd your cool picture go?
-Rich

 

dont put it off dude, if you do youll keep putting it off and never upgrade.

there is never a good time to upgrade, so you might aswell get it over and done with.

btw no i ordered this: (and i have now ordered it)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112141


ok so this is what it is:

Parts
Price
QTY
Total
Lian Li A70B
£129.99
1
£129.99
Lian Li CD bezel
£7.99
1
£7.99
Radcut in roof
£15.00
1
£15.00
Rad Grill
£12.00
1
£12.00
Window Cut
£20.00
1
£20.00
Moherboard tray Cuts
£15.00
1
£15.00
Window Acrylic Mirror
£17.00
1
£17.00
Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme Black
£24.99
1
£24.99
Cable Ties Black
£0.00
1
£0.00
Cable Tie Bases
£0.00
1
£0.00
Braiding + Heatshrink
£0.00
2
£0.00
Acryan cathodes UV
£5.99
1
£5.99
Acryan cathodes White
£5.99
1
£5.99
Molex Y adaptor
£1.00
1
£1.00
Molex to 3 pin
£1.59
1
£1.59
Shipping
£0.00
1
£0.00
Total
£256.54

 

They will never adapt the HD3850 Trinity for AGP, nor will there ever be a need. Even a Core 2 CPU holds back a card with that much power, let alone a prehistoric P4... ;-)
Seriously - you may not have a lot of time on your hands, but I strongly recommend you not waste any more money and bin the old architecture...
30" of screen will not take kindly to low resolutions like 1680x1050 - if you can afford one of those, you can certainly afford a new CPU, Motherboard, memory and Graphics card.

 

No I didn't get banned. There was a... hiccup in the process.

I would NOT make a new build right now. Not the right time. Wait till at least the end of October till Nehalem comes out. Even if you dont get a Nehalem CPU, the prices for the current quad cores will definitely come down.

I would also not recommend putting ANY money into your P4 system.

Oh and Sam, with that 3850 Trinity THAT powerful? I didn't read through all the way, how does it compare to a 4850?

 

Nawww! I was kidding about the trinity 3850. Why would anybody want that anyway vs 4870x2.

See, booze says no new build until the new intel architecture in November. (what do you mean glitch - you got banned - admit it lol)

Hey Shaff, it IS a matter of economics - $200 vs $800. Kind of a big difference. If I put $200 in the old p4 I am up to 3850 at least, and 2 gigs of memory - shader 3.0, smoother cod4 (my cod4 just crashed again at 1600x1200) and a couple of more games like medal of honor airborne. I know the P4 will be a big bottleneck but they are practically giving the 3850s away at $129 so the bottlneck is ok - the faster memory for $75 might let me oc the cpu a bit - move from 3.2 to 3.6, we'll see. Anyway, for me, that will be a beginning upgrade, and the memory boost will let me back on Battlefield 2 - maybe I'll even pick up Battlefield Vietnam since estuansis likes it so much.

So shaff, what case did you say you were getting?

Sam, I can't afford a Dell right now, but ultimately I think the 30" is where I want to be. But I guarantee you I won't run my everyday desktop at 2560x1600 like you. Lol

So you're saying that 1680 x 1050 scales ass on the dell - that's important to know. Does any resolution lower than native 2560x1600 scale well (I'm thinking of crysis.)

 

No it was a glitch. They thought I told them to remove my account, so the mods had to fix it.

Oh and dont spend 200 dollars on your P4 build. It wont make a big difference. What WILL make a big difference is when you spend 1000 dollars instead of 800 dollars on your new build. That will enable you to get better memory, video card, and CPU. Huge difference in video cards between a 800 and 1000 dollar computer with a quad core.

 

see my edited post above for my case which i just ordered


damn back a page, might aswell list here


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112141


ok so this is what it is:

Parts
Price
QTY
Total
Lian Li A70B
£129.99
1
£129.99
Lian Li CD bezel
£7.99
1
£7.99
Radcut in roof
£15.00
1
£15.00
Rad Grill
£12.00
1
£12.00
Window Cut
£20.00
1
£20.00
Moherboard tray Cuts
£15.00
1
£15.00
Window Acrylic Mirror
£17.00
1
£17.00
Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme Black
£24.99
1
£24.99
Cable Ties Black
£0.00
1
£0.00
Cable Tie Bases
£0.00
1
£0.00
Braiding + Heatshrink
£0.00
2
£0.00
Acryan cathodes UV
£5.99
1
£5.99
Acryan cathodes White
£5.99
1
£5.99
Molex Y adaptor
£1.00
1
£1.00
Molex to 3 pin
£1.59
1
£1.59
Shipping
£0.00
1
£0.00
Total
£256.54

 

Abuzar - you're back! They thought you said "Remove me!" How did they think that? What really happened was that on the PC Builder's thread you got upset and you posted "Loco you s*** *ss!" After they banned you, you claimed they misunderstood your shaff-like keyboard malfunction and you just meant "you smoke grass!" which is perfectly fine - cool even.

Booze - are YOU the one smoking grass?? WHAT DO YOU MEAN $200 IN THE P4 WON'T DO ANYTHING???? Have you gone bonkers? That gives me 2 gigs of memory, not 1, so I'm back on Battlefield 2, plus it gives me a 3850 not my current x850xtpe. Granted the 3850 only pulls about 20% more raw fill, but all the extra shader pipelines, etc. plus shader 3.0 support, will be nice - at least for a while.

Booze, I totally agree - on the new build an extra few hundred will be worth it to get a crysis raping machine (well - nothing will do that.) At the rate that I keep machines (take Sam's lightning fast upgrade path and invert it lol) I might as well go for something pretty strong on the new build.

 

Haha, ACTUALLY sam doesn't upgrade THAT often.

And about your P4, well you know the saying... can't polish a you know what. Not trying to be mean, but it's still going to suck 200 dollars later lol! It wont be money well spent. Trust me, I've been poor before and I know what money well spent is!

 

id agree with boozer.

sell your components take your $200 add another $600 + the money you make selling your P4 and make a nice rig

btw a 4870 at 1920 can run crysis DX10 Vhigh 30FPS

my case i bought today, and ETA is next week firday

 

You paid that much for the case? Honestly brother, it looks pretty Ugly to me.

 

well you liek the taccy looks of 120mm blue leds fans in the front dont you?

 

Wow, shaff - you're modifying that case like crazy. Lots of radiator cuts - who is doing all the cuts for you, not newegg. I take it that this will be a water cooled rig. How many radiators in all will you have, shaff?

Is that why not NZXT - is that more an air-cooled case?

I see two 120mm inlet fans, one 120mm rear exhaust. The NZXT that Sam likes has 3 120mm inlet fans, a top 120mm fan as I recall, and up to 3 more fans somewhere. Why are you picking LianLi - Ray got one too - sam says they're too expensive!

Booze, you can't polish - what - don't you dare say it!! You guys are all so "P4 sucks" I want you to go back in time 3 years, when there was only p4, and you'd be saying - "Yeah Rich go man go, spend that $200, max the rig" Lol. Ok, I'm 3 years behind, I admit it.

I'm selling little tiny houses right now and I only make $2,000 a sale, so $1000 for a killer new build is nice, but a lousy $200 to keep going for a while (remember Booze you said no new build yet until Nehelem) until the end of the year or so - Yeah, good move Rich.

 

No, actually. I choose a CM690 because of less lights and I moved the front blue LED fan to the side.

Plus, you do realize that the power LED on your case is almost as bright as a LED fan? And the air cooling is not that good either, but that should be fine since you are doing water.

 

actually we would be saying ditch the P4 and get an amd athalon XP system back then

yeah a 120.3 in the roof will be put, only 1 rad atm, might go to put a 120.2 in the front later on this year for the chipsets and mosfets and south bridge.

i will be w.c the CPU (E8600) and GPU(4870)

the case has 1 intake, and 2 out take. the PSU can be mounted top or bottom, ill choose bottom, and where it isnt (the top) will have a HDD cage with fan, and i wont be putting HDDs there, so itll be an out take fan or i might make it an intake and get cold air to the top mounted 120.3

its a beautiful all aluminium constructed case and oozes quality.

and no not from newegg as im from the UK, its from www.chilledpc.co.uk


the NZXT tempest as 2 intake at the front no?

and you knwo how most cases have rivets everywhere, well lianli even saw that and use screws instead, so the case is fully take-apartable.

you pay for ut most quailty and though with lian li

 

why isnt air cooling fine, and no led is not that bright at all.

and was it not you who loved your plastic armour? and IICR the CM690 is plastic up front aswell.

nothing says quality IMO (remember this is my OPINION) like brushed aluminium.


also there are 2 front intake, a HDD cage and then 2 fins just behind the HDDs cage aswell.