The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Nah, it's a better performing card overall, but there are still certain titles the GTX280 will mop the floor with the HD4870X2, few, but some remain nonetheless. Estuansis means a single card - who knows, it may happen.

 

realy?

i though all titles were 4870X2.... must be non CF supported titles.

 

Think logically, when not in CF mode, 4870X2 = 4870 (maxing more than 512MB VRAM is unusual in a non-CF title, so unusual I've never seen it), and we all know the 4870 is a GTX260 beater (and even then only just), not a GTX280 beater, so it stands to reason the GTX280 will win - and in many cases, non-CF titles are TWIMTBP titles, so the GTX280 gets further ahead. Then there's Flight Sim X, which I'm amazed even opens on an ATI card.

 

Actually, Flatout UC is much better for me than Crysis. I use 4xAA at native res and it plays smoooooth.

 

At 2560, 4xAA hurts when you can't use CF. I get around 30fps typically, which is not great at all for a racing game without motion blur, and it drops to the high teens during crashes - runs during the 20s for the most part during destruction derbies and stunt races, a bit too low to be considered playable.

Crysis is obviously without the AA, but since it can use crossfire, for an X2 owner, it's barely any worse than Flatout - Enable AA and it runs like dump, whereas without AA it's reasonably solid except for a couple of bits in Paradise Lost - Flatout UC is all solid with no AA, runs perfectly - but for games like that, AA makes a huge difference.

 

1920 4xaa Custom PC are reporting a minimum of 26 FPs and avg of 36 in crysis with an X2. seems good to me.

 

That's 1920, and I'd agree. 1920 with AA in Crysis with an X2 is playable. 2560 with an AA is definitely not playable, unless you use medium settings.

 

That makes me glad to be on a 1920 monitor then. AA makes a big difference for driving games and the like. Makes it easier to see the track really.

The AA in Flatout is a bit naff though. Not terrible, but noticeably less effective than in other games.

 

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775&p=16

one interesting thing (sam note this) that when they did the same test with a 4870X2 games benifited from Quads alot more than duals, and i am sure this is down to CF needing a big overhead due to the CPU "talking" to both GPUs rather than a single GPU card.

this is the reason i think sam made those very impressive increaces.

heres one from a GX2 shoot out

so when i said with my 4870 all i would need is an E8600..... i didnt lie.

 

W/e

Dual Cores are for noobs.

 

OUCH!!!

someone is not happy.....

 

I'm always depressed.

Just a little less depressed today actually. No one loves me

 

its ramadaan, the lack of sugar is getting to you.

find a wife and then you can find love though wait a few more years first. (if your that desprate, get a cusin as your wife from pakiland)

 

Uhhh, Marrying my COUSIN!

Not happening.

We can discuss this later on MSN.

 

Well, Crysis Warhead reviews are in all over the place. A quick read indicates that it's as good as the original but a bit more linear and action oriented.

The performance is supposedly much better too. Anyone tried it yet? How is it? The visuals are supposed to be better too, denser foliage, better shadows, lighting, the like. Any confirmations?

I heard that an 8800GTS G92 could handle it on Very High at 1680 x 1050. Is that total BS or did they really fix the engine?

Am currently in the process of getting the game. I will let you know what I find out.

 

Foolishness aside, I'd agree with that. Crossfire is far more a match for a quad core chip than single graphics. However, that is mainly because I associate dual core CPUs as being the cheaper options, so siding with single graphics cards, from the idea that if you have enough to use a dual card setup, you have enough to get a good quad core CPU, even if it is a C1 stepping chip.

Estuansis: The reviews I've seen all say performance is better, or same, none say it's worse, so the forecast looks good. A GTX260 will make 35fps or so on Enthusiast at 1920x1200.

 

you might aswell tell me to get a B3 Q6600

 

What? Why?

 

C1 Quad.....

 

Hey Estuansis,

I'm always a week behind. Thanks for laying out the specs for the new build for me on page 31. I would beef up everything with a larger psu, crossfire mobo, etc - because I'll probably use the new build for about 3 years. So if it doubles in cost, that's okay - I was figuring more your earlier estimate at $800 to $1000. But that really sounds like a nice rig on pg 31 for only $560! I see why you guys think it's really sketchy of me to dump any more $ in a P4.

Sam, sounds like you definitely are all for quad core these days - so that's the first place where I'd beef up the pg 31 build.

Boozer, that was an interesting link to the guy who did some Vista tests - it's good to know that some of the problems of Vista have been fixed. If I ever ran Vista it would be only in a dual-boot system with XP. All of my computers are now dual boot XP and W98, believe it or not. Some of the real estate stuff I do works better on the W98 version of the program (a program called PaperPort) than on the XP version. So all my computers have two hard drives, W98 on the C, XP on the D. I would do the same with the new build probably - put Vista on the D, and use it only for DX10 for the games that really need it.

Shaff that was an interesting observation about DX10 on crysis - crysis is mainly the game the new build will first work with - so if DX10 has some major eye candy enhancements to that game:

that's good to know.

A new version of crysis out? Interesting stuff - Estuansis, I'll be looking forward to your review. Who developed it, Crytek, or some genius hacker?
-Rich