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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. spamual

    spamual Guest

    i7 will have dual quad and octo configurations.

    im waiting for the GTX280 GX2 if there is such a card, if not the GTX380, becuase competition is good for the customer.

    also comeon deneb (amd 45nm Quadcore)
     
  2. Estuansis

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    They are still separate games. But the second is cheaper so go nuts :p

    The battles are a bit more scripted and action oriented. Whereas you'd face 5-6 guys at once in Crysis, you'll be facing 10-15 in Warhead. They come at you from all different directions and add a lot of strategy to the fights. The scripting means they'll be taking cover in hardened positions and taking advantage of their terrain, such as charging down hills at you. Though they are a bit easier to kill this time through, they seem to have grasped the concepts of movement, cover, suppressing fire and teamwork well enough to provide a consistent challenge.

    Warhead is taking 1.4GB of RAM as we speak. So expect it to take advantage of anything over 2GB if you have it... runs smooth for me though. At least as well as stock Crysis.

    Also, just in. There are really nice rain effects that make everything look shiny and wet.

    The story is, IMO, pretty exciting. The cut scenes are sweet as sh1t.

    EVERYONE GET THIS GAME NOW AND SEE ALL THE NEW FEATURES!!!! It's definitely an improvement on the original.

    Also, the cheap very high settings work fine. Runs as smooth as Crysis did with them on.

    In most games, you go to options in-game and you can change the graphics settings so the performance suits your system. The settings are usually high, medium, and low or you can enable or disable features. Lowered or disabled settings means lowered graphical quality, sometimes drastically, but higher performance. Higher settings are more demanding on your system but look much better.

    AA is anti-aliasing. It's an image filter that drastically cleans up the image and helps eliminate jagged edges in the graphics due to the limits of monitor resolution. You can usually enable AA by going in your graphics control panel or in the in-game menu if it has the option. AA does have a performance hit, but if your system can handle it, it can really make a difference and make the game look way better.

    Also, never OC your GPU. That's only asking for trouble.
     
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  3. Estuansis

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    Sorry, but I've got even more. You play as Psycho and apparently, his last name is Sykes.

    Pretty much confirmed now that every weapon got a re-texture to look more detailed and more cool :p

     
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    well im sure my system can handle any game out right now... not to sure about my GPU...lol Evga Ge-force 7600GT 256mb

    like i said i have only played COD4 so far. and i havent gone into any options in the game to set up the quality level high,med,low will look into that tonight before i play Madden 09..lol
     
  5. Estuansis

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    Your system will have problems with something like Crysis no doubt. It's the most demanding game ever to come out. But something like CoD4 is very reasonable on your system. I used to have a 7600GT and they aren't all that bad. I recommend you disable "shadows" and "soften smoke edges" settings as they really don't add much to the game but give the biggest performance hits. I used a 7600GT to play CoD4 before and it was still relatively enjoyable compared to my 8800GTS or HD4870.

    There are a lot more action-scripted sequences in Warhead. Apparently, while Nomad was taking a stroll on the beach, Psycho was doing some intense, difficult sh1t. There is a driving sequence early on that especially impressed me. Keep in mind that, while improved, Warhead has a lot more action going on at once so you will still see some lower framerates.
     
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    my system will or the GPU???
     
  7. Estuansis

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    The GPU specifically. The rest of the system seems to be top-notch to me.


    More weapons. A semi-auto grenade launcher *drools*. An AMD processor can handle it, but I think Warhead, moreso than Crysis, is one game where the jump to Core 2 architecture is big. So many scripted sequences and heavy physics. My Core 2 Quad breezes through the physics :D

    Also, there are claymores for setting traps and boobie traps the Koreans will set up. I thought it was a nice touch.

    Warhead is like twice as much action on the screen as Crysis. Lots of explosions and some awesome gun fights with at least 6-8 guys on both sides.
     
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    ok i can accept that..lol i know my GPU is my weekest link. other than maybe some more mem... you started to scare me there..lol
     
  9. Estuansis

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    Yeah, you could easily power something like an HD4870 and game like a champ :)

    More details. There are hovercraft which are sweet and the performance in ice levels has improved a bit. Also, the SMG(not the new one) that was previously too weak to use, is now serviceable and can even take down guys in nanosuits with some effort...

    And now, with further play, I can confidently say that Warhead is a heavy improvement from Crysis in some areas. There are some new shader effects later on that put everything else absolutely to shame. Get it and see what I mean.

    Any questions? Show of hands?

    I won't spoil the story though. It's totally worth the purchase alone, IMO.

    I'm totally hooked now. The absolutely awe-inspiring action sequences and cut scenes make up completely for the loss of sandbox gameplay. Objectives are much more focused which works amazingly well for the style of guns and gameplay.

    Keep in mind that Warhead needed to be optimized to even be playable. When running around on the beach or in the woods like in most of Crysis, I get 30-35. But as the game takes off and the action picks up, I hover around 25-30 with occasional drops to maybe 22 or so. Even with the enhancements, the amount of stuff they throw at you means jumpy performance like in the last parts of Crysis. Though, I've seen nothing quite as bad as the final boss in the original. And that's with way more happening, so I think they've done a lot to help playability. And that's with the post processing haze improved so the ultra high-res textures are way more visible and stunning.

    Again, I stress, there is WAY WAY WAY more action going on than in any part of Crysis. Warhead is a different kind of beast. It really shows off the power of CryEngine and makes it POP! Changes aside, Crysis and Warhead are still near identical graphical equals for the most part, but some parts of Warhead make Crysis look like a quiet morning in church... yeah, it's just that awesome.

    "Wow" Factor:

    Crysis: 7/10 (9/10 in later levels)

    Warhead: 10/10(all the way through so far)

    Nothing is apparently different at first. But when you start looking for the ugly spots Crysis had, you won't find them. Everything just looks like a higher level of quality and retains it all the way through.
     
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  10. sammorris

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    Estuansis: Read the article, i think it was 24fps to 18 with the hack, and 14 in Vista running the real very high. Warhead is looking really good though, so tempting... ;)
    As for picking up ammo, I heard that was only on the lower difficulty, the higher ones it's the same:
    Spam: GTX280GX2 won't happen without a significant reduction in TDP. GTX380 will undoubtedly happen eventually, but I'd probably expect a GTX290 of some kind first.
     
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    All of you will probably laugh at all this, but I'm just wondering which card is better in a single card setup, the gtx 280 or the HD 4870

    Thanks
     
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    Well, the GTX280 is mildly faster, but also far more expensive. I'd go with the HD4870 for the monumental cost saving, the GTX280 is barely more than 10% faster than the 4870 in a fair few tests.
     
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    and i think GTX280 also uses more power. HD4870 is just little behind just like sam said, and it cheaper and use less power
     
  14. sammorris

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    A little less, yeah. On the other hand, if you want the fastest card you can buy that fits in one PCI express slot, consider the HD4870X2 (assuming you use at least a 23" monitor, else it's pretty much pointless)
     
  15. Ray92

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    Alright thanks, so the 280 is the better performer, but is quite a bit more expensive.

    Just one more question:
    I play crysis at medium/high (a mix of both) at 1280x800 playable.
    Will I be able to play Warhead with everything on high due to the engine improvements???

    Thanks

    EDIT : I'm not planning on buying one of these, just wondering :D
     
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    lol, it would be great playing games on a 15" with a HD4870X2. You can run any games on MAX even crysis. But i think everything will be squashed and it doesn't look good

     
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    Warhead is little different to the original Crysis, the improvements have mainly made the graphics better without dropping the performance, rather than improved the performance, though it is a little better (less than 10%). However, playing Crysis or Crysis:Warhead at resolutions as high as 1680x1050 is an absolute sure thing on maximum settings with either an HD4870 or GTX280, hell, an HD4850 could probably do it.

    GTR35: You do realise you can make a 15" box in the middle of any sized monitor using catalyst right?
     
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    What about my laptop, the details are in my previous thread
     
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    lol, yeah...
     
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    Well, put it this way - whatever you play Crysis at now, you will be able to play Warhead at, but I wouldn't expect to get much 'extra' so to speak.
     

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