The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Ouch. The specs looked absolutely amazing. Too bad they couldn't deliver. The barebones features make me think it was originally a TV display. Dell certainly delivers on their monitors.Extremely nice OSD, best I've ever used. Actually worthy of mention it's that nice. Buttons right on front. Very small a subtle white power LED on the lower right corner. Everything really nice quality. Awesome stand BTW. Viewing angles not noticeably better or worse than my 2407.

Windows handles 150% much better than 125% on this display, but I go back to having nearly the same scaling as 1080p. Nasty. 125% is workable. 3rd party applications are another story. Random. Some scale better than Windows, and some not at all. The large majority of stuff seems fine at 100%, 125%, or 150%. 100% the text is just too small for my tastes. Eye strain Maybe I'll turn it back down and give it another go.

 

Eye-strain when working into the small hours was one of the main reasons to try a bigger 4K display but honestly, the eye-strain was worse with that than the Dell because the picture was just so much more difficult to look at - apart from the colour level and distortion issues and the ghosting, being able to visibly see the backlight as too slow was another major factor. Other people seem to love the display but I can't get on with it at all.

 

Possibly you got a bad display? It's been known to happen. Issues like that would drag down the ratings. My monitor got a very bad rep for build quality and yellow backlight bleeding issues until a revision in early 2013. After that, it was one of the best monitors Dell had ever produced. Also, just switched back to 100% scaling, and moved the monitor a bit closer. That's the stuff. I like it. Still don't see how you manage on your display though lol.

 

While plenty of people like the display, several others have reported those issues - perhaps it is defective, I hope it is else I doubt I'll get a refund now the packaging is less than tip-top...

To be honest, I get used to it - not that many people can read the display, but I think working with 300+dpi phone screens for a couple of years makes 140dpi, admittedly from further away, nice and easy.

 

Regardless of the monster performance hit, I am thoroughly enjoying this monitor. Love it. 27" ain't bad, but I can't help feeling more like 29" in this resolution would be better. My complaints are minor at best and I will be keeping it.

As far as phone displays vs desktop displays, phones also have the proper GUI scaling to be usable at that DPI. For phones resolution is purely image quality, not screen realestate. For that they use larger size. For desktops its entirely personal preference. I can tolerate this display at 100% scaling. 4K at 32" though? That might be a bit too small for me. 125% scaling at the very absolute minimum would be necessary for me to be comfortable using it long-term.

 

I on the other hand, can't wait to see how my PC runs GTA V :S It's looking like it's resource intensive.
AMD 1090t 6 core
GTX 570
no overclocking.

 

Phones might, but websites not optimised for mobile content, or remote desktop apps like 2X, LogMeIn and Citrix Receiver, which I use often, do not

The desktop real-estate from 100% at 4K has to be seen to be believed. Granted, I wouldn't want to go much higher up the scale and I think the 28" 4K screens would be too small, but at this size, I can just about deal with it, and have done for well over a year already

 

Omega, I'm not too sure how your PC will fare. It's on Max Payne 3 engine basically, which is a video memory hog. It'll be an intensive game but, thankfully, it should still be far better optimized than GTA4. I imagine you'll be able to play it in some capacity. A better video card could be pushed by that CPU with a stock voltage overclock(ie no heat or stress) and better than that 570 are available for reasonable prices.

Sam, The 40" would have been ideal had it been a good display... 40" is a great size for gaming too.

 

Yes indeed it would have

Omega - might be time for an upgrade, at least on the GPU. CPU is also a bit long in the tooth but probably enough still.

 

I agree on CPU. Thuban still puts up a stirring fight.

 

Been leaning toward a GPU upgrade anyway. Seeing that there's cards that outperform, at a much lower wattage, is quite enticing indeed! Lol. And if the game needs it, that may be just enough to push me to do it. I believe my video encoding would probably benefit from it as well.
So now I come to the decision of Hard drive, or GPU :S LOL! I believe I can do without the hard drive for now...

Thanks guys

 

Unless your PC has no SSD in it for the OS, storage is an 'as and when' upgrade - you either need it or you don't - GPUs is more of a desire thing, you can spend little and put up with low graphics (within reason) or you can go for something higher-end for more visual pleasure. If you've got an SSD and no immediate storage demands, no reason to spend money on disks. On the other hand, if you're having to delete stuff to make do, arguably you could put up with lower detail for a while longer, depends how much of an issue it has become

 

Fact is, I have been deleting, and compressing to free up space. I do have an SSD (OCZ Vertex 4). It's my first and has lasted quite a while.

Unfortunately, I cannot compress my 3DBD's, because powerDVD 14 doesn't like the result. It however does handle SBS/OU format. So I may consider movie only backups, and Full resolution 3D MKVs. But I'd wager I only save 10% roughly. I prefer not to compress those too much. I have a feeling that one day, I'll see those artifacts on a 4K screen.
My space is definitely flexible. If I'm not worried about redundancy. One of my 3TB drives may be questionable. I once noted SMART stats that may become a problem. But it's mostly a read drive at this time. I guess I'm hopeful that the 6TB drives will drop under $200 soon I have noticed 4TB drives boasting 5Yr warranties. I may opt for several of those instead. We'll see when the time comes.

I definitely think about energy conservation. And the GTX 570 is an electrical beast compared to more modern offerings. I am sitting on some assets. Perhaps it's time to liquefy those assets lol. And the 570 may serve another build with agreeable mid-high graphics.

 

An extra 6TB is a big leap in space. If you're cost-conscious about extra space and have little room in your case for extra drives, you may as well get yourself a cheap 2TB external drive to mitigate the space requirement and go for the GPU.

 

The ultimate deciding factor, will be how well my current hardware can run GTA V If it drops below 30Fps for even an instance, that's a factor. If it can average upwards of 45 with the right settings, I may consider myself lucky, and put off the upgrade for a while longer. But as I say, I do consider my electric footprint.

 

Omega, I think you'd be sacrificing quite a bit with that 570 to maintain a 30FPS minimum in GTAV. If you had a 580? Then I'd say wait and see. I could be entirely wrong but I have a hunch this game is gonna be a beast to run. Also, 3.6GHz is almost absolutely guaranteed on that CPU at stock voltage. It won't heat anything up, and it'll help those minimums. Take it to 3.6, and your CPU-NB to 2200. No voltage adjustments should be needed for it. If not stable, add .025v to the CPU-NB and the CPU-VID. It's an almost foolproof mild OC for any Phenom II with no heat increase or extra stress on the hardware. Without a little OCing, the CPU will be a limit. With that type of mild OC, it should do the job.

 

Thanks Jeff, I'll keep that in mind Since I bought the processor used, and found X264 encodes to be only marginally better overclocked, I decided keep it stock, to increase its lifespan. But I understand what you're suggesting. Many good manufacturers to underrate their stuff(better under than over). I have no doubt that the processor can run (at the very least) 200Mhz more with no voltage bumps.
I recall GTA IV putting my 940 black quad and GTX 260 to the test. Roughly what I'm expecting to see with GTA V. But I suspect it'll be slightly more demanding.

 

Still running 1920 horizontal resolution I don't think a GTX570 will fare too badly - probably not 60fps at all max settings, but bear in mind Rockstar are suggesting the GTX760 for 30fps at 4K - which is normally around triple the demand of 1920x1080.

 

Yeah, 4K is a little too in its infancy for me to dabble Plus it's appallingly expensive!

 

I think you'll have a fair shot at 1080p with some overclocking 30FPS at 4K with a GTX760 means it might be a remarkably well optimized game.