The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Sam, for example, a case like the NZXT Tempest. Is that, first of all, a mid-tower? Yes, because you have a version of it. Is YOUR case wide enough to take a cpu tower? And how much room do you have behind your 4870x2. Would a disk drive be able to be located right there, with no problem on the power and ide or sata connections?(I believe I like your idea of staying a bit down-size from a full tower, in case I want to lug around and plug into the HD TV one day for example.)

 

My case isn't related to the Tempest, it's just built by the same company, but both are mid-towers. The hard disk cages for the Tempest and lexa are orientated differently, there is no trouble fitting a 4870X2 in the lexa for that reason, but to use one in the Tempest you MIGHT have to not use one of the hard disk bays. Fortunately the Tempest has two drive bays (two lots of four drives) versus the Lexa's one stack of five.

 

well if one wants good DDR3 (read fast, as X48 are poor for that) the 790i is mandate, jsut saying, not saying to get it over P45, esp as i am nto recomending DDR3, im just saying the best boards for DDR3.

november 17 is Core I7, (how did we not see that coming )

yes sam your right, but its the same with x48 CF vs P45, as no cards utlise most of the PCIE-2.0s bandwith

P45 cheaper, easy OCer, and runs cooler

but my guineepig, id suggest getiing a Lian-Li PC-A70B

and then watercooling the i7, with the swiftech GTZ

 

DDR3 is just an unfortunate side-effect of any chipset that uses it...

 

Are we still on topic

I mean with all the talk on DDR3, mobos, and what not

What happened to gaming and graphics cards

Just asking, I don't mind cuz I might learn something

 

well this has become our generla Hw forums for us young uns #

the light relaxed place for us crack heads ( i mean geek junkies)

what would one like to know?

 

Hehe, it all comes down to video cards

Plus we don't have mods threatening to kill us down here. It's nice.

 

Let me get this straight, shaff. You want the guinea pig to buy a $250 full tower case?? What part of mid-tower around one hundred bucks did you not understand?

Lol

Look, I'm actually willing to consider Lian-li, and sure, I'll do watercooling too - why not. I wouldn't mind picking up some watercooling experience.

But surely Lian-li make mid-tower cases too, don't they? Size-wise, if you want me to install the 6" Tuniq, (if we don't do the water) the mid-tower has to be about 8" wide, (my present case is only 7" wide) and for the 4870, I would prefer at least 20" long - my present case is only 17.5" long and the 4870 would be quite a tight fit indeed. Sounds like I want a mid-tower of the PHAT subspecies, not some extra-slender beastie.

I guess I should look up the specs of the tempest.

Sam, the way you describe the Tempest with the two hard drive bays, sounds like THAT would work, since I'll be running straight Sata drives and probably just a couple (what is in those humongous files you guys have??)

Hey I know some people set up the Sata drives with Raid - which I think treats all the drives as one big drive. Truly, can anyone in a nutshell explain what is the BIG deal about that - I should do some reading I know - I never understood the point.

I'm more like Shaff, keep everything separated from each other. I mean, what if one drive goes bad, and your data is spread over that one bad drive and two more that are still good. WTF???

 

I wouldn't buy a Lian Li. They are overpriced and I don't care how much quality they ooze. Others are cheaper and pretty damn well built also.

Rich, you're getting a bit carried away aren't you? I mean it's your money and everything, but I would cool my head first...

 

Cool my head, what do you mean COOL MY HEAD!! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I'M UPTIGHT?
. . . . . A N Y T H I N G . . . I N . . . P A R T I C U L A R? ? ! ! !

lol ... hey Ray, who might learn something even if we're off topic! (That was funny - it made me laugh.) Are you the same Pakistani Ray who lives in SA and can't get the Tempest - no that was GTR who is in SA. Sorry.

Speaking of the Tempest, I downloaded the manual and got the specs.

God wants, oh sorry guys, I forgot where I was, I mean Allah, "allah akhbar!!" Allah wants me to get this Tempest, I don't care how many billions of chinese people are rooting for the Lian Li.

Listen to these specs:

In my earlier post just above, I said I needed 8" wide, right? The tempest is 8.5" wide. I said I needed 20" deep, right? The tempest is 20.5 inches deep.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE!!

(I didn't say anything about height, but my current mid-tower is only 16 inches high, and the tempest is 20 inches high.)

So this is exactly what I was looking for, Allah be willing. I must buy it! Good news shaff, if we don't do water, the Tuniq, which is 6" tall, will definitely fit in this case.

Now booze, you just have to get a grip. I know shaff said this was the land of the crack heads, but lay the pipe down once in a while, you know what I mean? You just have to get hold of yourself bud. I'm the Nehalem guinea pig, get it? (whisper: I have to sort of pretend to do what shaff says.)

 

oh well boozer, till you have one in real life you will never understand

 

lol well calm down buddy. Of course the tempest will fit your stuff, all enthusiast cases will. not really a big deal.

 

haha rich.

the tempest is a superb case, to flash for me, BUT comes down to personal preferance.

your damn right your the guinnee pig, if not then whoooooooooo??????????

 

Oh and don't listen to Shaf. He is a little mentally unstable.

 

yeah im so not sane, that i miss spell unstable...

and then i change it after as not to look like a fool, but my edit time is after the other persons post

 

What are you talking about?

You feel alright. It's like 4AM over there. Go to sleep.

 

And now a message from the guinea pig:

Hey boys and girls (shaff and booze fit yourselves in there somewhere hahahaha) I have an announcement - are you listening Sam?

THE TEMPEST IS 95% - ALMOST A FULL TOWER!!!

Yeah, they market it as a mid-tower, but I just watched the vid of it, then I watched the HAF vid, and guess what:

My small true mid-tower case is: HWD: 16 high, 7 wide, 17.5 deep.

Tempest and full tower HAF: Height 20 versus 21.5. Width 8.4 versus 9.0. Depth 22.2 versus 22.7.

A full tower is 5.5" taller, 2.0" wider, and 5.0" deeper than my mid-tower.
A full tower is 1.5" higher, 0.5" wider, and 0.5" deeper than the Tempest.

The tempest is virtually a full tower!!!

 

There are mid-towers and then there are mid-towers. Most good ones are the latter, if you know what I mean.
As for Lian Lis, some are more overpriced than others. The A70B isn't especially bad value, but the smaller ones are often a bit on the pricey side. They are well made, but they are very bland for how much they cost, not that that's a bad thing, but still, as far as complexity goes, you're getting a flat metal cuboid for over a hundred pounds...

 

anyone heard of mountain mods UFO?

its just a clear arcly cube, for about £250!!!

now thats over priced.

you pay for class IMO, with lian li.

little things, like its chasis is fully man built, not mass produced.

each fan comes with a disconnector for a 3pin> 4pin molex connector.

thubscrewes where ever possible, you can take apart EVERYTHING, event he roof, HDD cages, anything. i cant see any rivets.

(my case) Dual PSUS, one top, one bottom.

there are cut outs on the back top of the mobo so you can unscrew a retention plate.

but maybe im being biased, caus i bought one, and i wan tto justify it, but still.


one bad thing, the price (though i think its worth it) and it can scratch a little easily)

 

Overpriced? maybe. Worth it? totally. Have you seen how big Mountain Mod cases are? They're two full towers. At £250 that works out at £125 per tower, which is no more expensive than your Lian Li...

As for Lian-Lis being handmade, I'd like to believe that's true, but I honestly can't see it myself. There are too many out there for that.