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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by abuzar1, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    That's right rich, the 4870X2 is the same as two 4870 1GB cards in crossfire, but with the internal bridge which still gives it a percent or two's edge. At 2560 with AA, and to some extent 1920 with AA in games like Warhead, there is a big difference between either of those combinations and the 512MB cards in CF.

    You need the hotfix 8.10 driver to play Far Cry 2 with CF, it doesn't work with normal 8.10 as the game had no profile in that release.

    We all acquired dead space yesterday, been playing it a little. Looks good, runs very well (90fps on my system at 2560x1600 all high), scary as hell.
     
  2. Ray92

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    It's been leaked, check mininova

    Can't wait to play Dead Space, Far Cry 2, not really into RPGs so much, so I probably wont get fallout

    Looks like these new games should run well on my laptop at 1280x800, :D ;D (Yea!!!!)
     
  3. abuzar1

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    I have had it for a few days, but I dont have any DVDs left. Coming in the mail I think.
     
  4. Estuansis

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    So Far Cry 2 doesn't support widescreen natively. The resolutions are there but 1920 x 1200 just chops off the top and bottom of the screen and stretches the image.

    After a visit to the Widescreen Gaming Forum, I have found a workaround that sets your aspect ratio correctly. Yay, no more motion sickness while driving :) It makes for a massive improvement to IQ and makes the game feel better all around. Give it a try all.

    Far Cry 2 is sweet. All very high at 1920 x 1200 w/ 4xAA is seeing 40-60FPS in most situations. Far Cry 2 turns out to be A LOT like Stalker. I think it's much better though.

    The graphics are very comparable to Crysis quality-wise. The textures aren't quite as brilliant and everything isn't so sharp. But the IQ is consistent so far and I have already been wowed several times by the lighting effects.

    Don't get me wrong guys. This is still a pretty demanding game. My friend tried it with a 5000+ BE at 3GHz and a 9600GT. He plays all high at 1680 x 1050 and gets 30-40FPS. AFAIK, the differences for any settings above high are minor as is the performance impact. The game looks fantastic in general. Better than FEAR or HL2 but not quite Crysis. The performance is miles better than Crysis though.


    Also, this game loves video memory. The 256MB HD3850 runs like crap while the 512MB one runs fairly well. Same with the HD4870. The 1GB one sees a large performance increase over the 512MB one.

    The minimum cards to play this game at high settings at 1280 res or similar would probably be:

    HD3850 512MB
    8800GS 384MB

    Very high at 1920 res or similar:

    8800GT/GTS 512MB
    HD4850

    The official requirements:

    Minimum requirements

    * CPU:
    Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, Pentium D 2.66 Ghz
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+ or better
    * Video card:
    NVIDIA 6800 or ATIX1650 or better
    Shader Model 3 required
    256 Mb of graphic memory
    * Memory:
    1 GB
    * Media reader:
    DVD-ROM
    * Hard drive space:
    ~12 Gig or HD space. (tbd)

    Recommended

    * CPU:
    Intel Core 2 Duo Family
    AMD64 X2 5200+, AMD Phenom or better
    * Video card:
    NVIDIA 8600 GTS or better
    ATIX1900 or better
    512 Mb of graphic memory
    * Memory:
    2 GB
    * Sound:
    5.1 sound card recommended
    * Media reader:
    DVD-ROM

    As far as I can tell, these are fairly accurate.
     
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  5. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Had a quick go and it looks good, but I haven't upgraded to Catalyst 8.10 with Hotfix yet, still on 8.9, so no crossfire support for FarCry 2 yet, resulting in a frame rate of 25 at 2560x1600 UH with no AA, 16 with AA. Does appear to look very nice though.
     
  6. krj15489

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    1920x1200 is native widescreen at a 16:10 aspect ratio. i am not having any problems playing widescreen.
     
  7. sammorris

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    Not really the point, the game renders at 1920x1200, but it's actually a cut down version of a render that should be larger, for instance 1920x1440.
     
  8. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    Just like with all the stuff about BioShock.
     
  9. krj15489

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    does the fix for that make a big difference?
     
  10. abuzar1

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    It makes a big difference because the game actually CUTS OFF parts to make it widescreen.

    I think Estuanisis said that the fix fixed that.
     
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    ok, i will try that out tomorrow. right now i am going to install dead space.
     
  12. Estuansis

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    http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=143018#143018

    Download the tool and follow the instructions. Just run it and leave it running when you play FC2. You'll see exactly what I mean. You can see so much more of the world and it feels a lot less confined :)

    Exactly, so instead of a true 16:10 or 16:9 widescreen display, you get a 4:3 display with the top and bottom chopped off.

    Correct. It's the same exact thing that happened with Bioshock. That also had a similar fix as well IIRC.
     
  13. krj15489

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    thanks for the link. i will check it out. i did not know bioshock had a widescreen issue either. i thought it looked fine.
     
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    Glad to help :)

    Yes, Bioshock had the same issue. It WOULD look fine because the image is not really distorted. But the right aspect ratio will let you see so much more

    Honestly, the first time I played FC2, I thought it looked like crap, was visually suffocating, and was poorly made. But after that fix was applied, I think it is one of the best looking and playing games to come out in a while. It's little flaws like that that can ruin a game.

    I only wish you didn't get attacked by everyone and his brother every time you pass a road checkpoint :)

    Also, the AI is better at some stuff than the guys in Crysis. I was just sniping and when the first guy dropped all the others scattered and ran into some buildings. And they DON'T pop their heads out like in Crysis, lol.

    Also, will be playing Dead Space soon. Tomorrow or Monday at the latest. Be honest people. Are we really paying $50 a pop for every new game that comes out? My family is poor and I make $600 every 2 weeks. I am a constant visitor to mininova and The Bay ;P Though, honestly, I do eventually end up buying most of them once the price drops.
     
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    i agree that does get annoying. but you should try to find new and interesting ways to kill the people. like shooting gas containers next to them, running them over, or stabbing them in the back. you can go around some of these is you are going all the way across the map by following the railroad tracks.
     
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    i just got done testing out dead space and i have to say that i am dissapointed. i find it very hard to control the character. the mouse is really laggy in the game for some reason. but the graphics look good. i get a consistent 30fps at all high 1920x1200.
     
  17. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    Dude get it on the 360 then. It's very good. I know you have a modded xbox 360.

    If there is a fast way of sharing files I can send you the files for dead space. I know torrents are slow.
     
  18. krj15489

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    i traded my modded xbox to my little bro for his new xbox with an hdmi port so i still need to mod it. i am having a little trouble with that but when i do get it done i can get it from black cats.
     
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    Oh alright.

    Is black cats fast? It took me two days to download Gears and like 4 days on and off to download Fable 2.
     
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    yes, i can get a full game in 2-3 hours and that is using torrents. the only problem is there end up being too many seeders and it is hard to seed it all back to get my ratio back.
     

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