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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by Praetor, May 1, 2004.

  1. GTR35

    GTR35 Active member

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    wow yeah after reading from the site that ck5134 post...it sure is a good overclocker but is it faster than E6600 stock speed?

    @REAM E4X50 series?...really does that exist? never seen one...
     
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  2. sammorris

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    Overclocked, it'll go faster than an E6600 at stock, no question. At stock however, it's well behind, and an overclocked 6600 will certainly beat an overclocked 2180.
     
  3. GTR35

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    well yeah thats of course...cause i wanna have faster cpu then my friend and cheaper...since he doesn't OC so yeah...

    yo it's 00:32 in the morning time to sleep...
     
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    REAM Guest

    sorry abotu the miss information on the CPUs, it was the E6X50 that were introduced. and they had 1333FBS.

    SORRY.


    and yeah on stock fan. on another forum, there have been alot of people that have OC to 3.2 on stock.

    oh and it can keep up with the E6850 when OCed, but benchies that ur cache (sp?) it looses in.

    In the real world though, i dont think you could tell the difference between 1 and 2 MB cache
     
  5. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    In some applications you can, but not many.
     
  6. theonejrs

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    REAM,
    I'm not real sure where you got your information but the only way an E4300 can can keep up with and even exceed the performance of an E6850 or for that fact an E6750 is in percentage of overclock! I know, I just replaced an E4300 with an E6750 on the same motherboard, a GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 Rev. 1.33. The 6750 easily hits 3.5GHz+ with my present memory while the 4300 has problems much above 3.2GHz. Makes you wonder just how rigged the CPUs were that were supplied by Intel to Tom's Hardware when they did their initial E4300 review and claimed 3.6GHz on air! I also don't know anyone that has better stepping then L2 and I believe the stepping used in Tom's Hardware was B1! I also had no problems getting to 4.0GHz with 1066 memory on a gigaByte GA-P35-DS3R Rev. 2.0 motherboard, although I consider the voltage requirement too high at that speed and won't run it over 3.8GHz.

    I also put the E4300 in that same board and it runs out of gas at a little over 3.2GHz. I've had the 4300 to just a hair under 3.4GHz but it won't pass ORTHOS for 12 hours! The big problem is heat as at about 3.3gHz the cores start pouring out the heat and go a bit crazy. The 4300 is a reliable chip good to around 30,000 MIPS, but the 6750 is good to better than 32,000 and that's at 3.5GHz. I can't wait to see what it does at 3.8! Both the 6750 and 6850 are excellent overclockers and have no heat issues. The 6850 is the fastest Dual-Core in the world at stock speeds and from what I'm told by some of the members here will out clock the Q6600 Quad when overclocked!

    In the real world, the 4 MB cache makes all the difference in the world and is most apparent when encoding video with CCE. Considering that CCE is a single threaded app, that's pretty amazing!

    Clockin Around The Christmas Tree,
    [​IMG]

    theone :<)

     
  7. NuckNFuts

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    For overclocking on a budget, why not just hod out a few more weeks for the E4700 @ $133.00 USD, on 45nm. It is basically the old E6600 on 2m L2 and FSB 800. But sinc eit is o the 45nm, it has the better potential of reaching the high FSB OC as opposed to any of the older 4300/4400 on 65nm. If all you want is clock OC, most of these budget cores can do that, but then only scores for points with benchmarks that look at core clock speed and not L2 and FSB bandwidth.

    As for the q6600, almost any of the core 2 duals beet it in OC, but not neccisarly performance, depending on apps used. They are mainly FSB OC limited but if you got a great OC mobo with good chipset for CPR/RAM updevider to make up for the bandwidth then it can become a great performer to keep up with a good E6850 to 4.1GHz.

    My Q6600 on the P5K Deluxe is is doing great as 480x8 to 3.85GHz at a 4:5 to DDR1200. compared to my E6750 to 4GHz as 50x8 in 5:6 DDR1200.
     
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    2.4Ghz on an 800mhz FSB? Sweet! That should overclock like absolute mayhem.
     
  9. theonejrs

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    sammorris,
    Given my druthers, I would rather spend the additional $50 or so and get the E6750. Will run on most older 965P chipsets and such and gives more potential for the future with a 1333 fsb motherboard and 1066 memory, and it also has 4MB of L2 cache!

    Just my thoughts!

    theone
     
  10. abuzar1

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    Ahhh my RAM can't overclock worth crap!

    I'm at 3.6 Ghz right now, on stock cooling ;) 1.42v, so far it's stable.
     
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    abuzar1,
    You are doing fine then! Download the trial Everest Ultimate Edition 4.20 and check the CPU voltage, or you can check it with CPUz. Chances are it will be around 1.24V at idle and a bit lower under load, so you can kick it up a bit more without problem. Heat will not be an issue, or at least it shouldn't be. Don't be so concerned with overclocking your RAM at this point, but concentrate on getting the RAM near stock speeds.

    I have a couple of questions! Is your RAM 800MHZ or 1066? What multiplier are you using? What revision is your motherboard? At the speed you are running the CPU, it should be set to the 2.4 multiplier which would give you a memory speed of 1080MHz if it's 1066 memory. Close enough to 1066. If it's 800MHz memory then the multiplier should be set to 2.0 which would give you 900MHz on the memory.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  12. jtan189

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    no offense, but I've noticed you use quite a bit of exclamation points in your posts..
     
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    jtan189,
    Hmmm.... Guess I do at that! LOL!! (jk)

    Best Regards,
    theone :<)

     
  14. GTR35

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    well i rather spend less and gain good performance...i'm trying to save as much as possible...waiting for penryn and other upgrades...since E2180 is good OCer then i'll go for that...
     
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    Well, we're only talkin' a matter of weeks from "mainstreame" Penryn quads and duals, and the E4700 is gonna' be marketed at the budget overclocker and OEM builders. $133.00. The 1333FSB $163.00 E8190 is right behind followed by the E8200 in 2 more months.

    What did you have in mind for budget or performance? There will be plenty to choose from in Jan. from $133.00 - $999.00. Oh ya, then there's the QX Extremes for each $1399/$1499. (QX9775/QX9770)
     
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    whoa there noways i'll get the QX...hmm...maybe i should wait until Penryn does come out...then i'll have more price/performance choice...
     
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    Yeah but my older RAM would go to 1000MHz at 4-4-4-10, with headroom to spare.

    I am using 800 memory so the multiplier is 2.00, and the mobo rev is A2 according to CPUZ.
     
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    i've brought this up before...when overclocking the cpu the ram also increases...for e.g when OCing my 3500+, my DDR400 ram becomes 450/460 etc...so does OCing the cpu effect the ram speed too?
     
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    That depends on the motherboard. Most decent motherboards nowadays let you set the multiplier speed of the RAM for optimal performance.
     
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    so can these 2 mobo do that?
    Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R IP35 Motherboard

    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L IP35 Motherboard
     

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