Yeah 2.0x is as low as it goes. You need at least 890mhz to pull 4Ghz on a Q9650, and that's a tall order for PC6400, you really want PC8500 for it.
Ok guys heres the scoop. Got to the store sold out of course. So i had some discount coupons for being a frequent shopper. So i got the Q9400 for $120usd. Now whats the safest i can go as far as voltage. I know the intel specs are 1.3625 max. Just curious. I got it to 3.6 at 1.35vmemory 1:1 so that was 900mhz which brings me to my next question. I have it now at 3.4 1.3v and the memory at 1133mhz 1.9v. I ask you this is the way i have it now a faster setup than going to 3.6 and the mem be at 900mhz.I would think that the higher you can get both settings would be better like i have it now than having a high cpu speed and a low memory speed. Please edumacate me
never mind about the Q9650 guys..... I got an Core i7 965 EE instead!!! hehehehehehe i am sooo happy, Nehalem! woohoo
Heres an intriguing question. Lets say that there were a board, that could support 4 phenom II processors. What would you build then? Please note that 4 Phenom II processors are cheaper than 1 Nehalem. LOL! Imagine 16 Cores, doing your dirty work LOL!
500 bucks they were out of stock on the q9650s so i said eff it, i will just get the i7 965 AND my mom offered to pay for it! i cant wait for it to get here, it will be here by next Friday 4/17
Well... im officially jealous. I would not mind putting it up against the Phenom II for some real benchmarking. SEEING is believing!
once i get it, lets do those benchies! haha i would also LOVE to see what Intel's top cpu has to offer. tell me what benchmarks to run, and we can compare results. btw, do you guys know where I can get the LGA1366 clip for the Zalman CNPS9700 cooler? is the Zalman CNPS9700 even good enough for the i7 965? -im1992
No offense, but throw that Zalman in the for sale box. You need a really good cooler with that CPU. A TRUE or maybe a V8. The 9700 is just not enough cooler, especially if you overclock! Russ
A board supporting four Phenom IIs would cost more than the Nehalem CPU does on its own, so irrelevant... im: No, the CNPS9700 is basically no better than the Freezer 7 Pro, a midrange cooler, but that's it. A 965, esp an overclocked one would shut down easily with that cooler. My friend has a 940 oc'ed to 4Ghz, and even with a Noctua NH-U12P, one of the TRUE rivals, he reaches 70ÂșC main. Needless to say, get a TRUE 1366RT. By the way, a stock i7 965 is likely to outpace the 3.5Ghz Phenom II by about 25-30%. And then you can overclock it!
awwww crap! i cant afford anything else for now... my mom paid like 400 bucks for the i7 965 and i paid a 100 (thats pretty much all i had) AND i still need a mobo and some ddrIII ram (i get my paycheck next week) can i just run it at stock speeds for now on the CNPS9700? or is that asking too much? how good is the stock cooler that comes with the i7 965? maybe i will just use that... LOL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471 is that the best cpu offered by AMD? if it is, AMD is getting really cheap these days and if that 200 buck cpu is the top of the line, then i would be happy if it performed even 1/5th that of the Nehalems if it is indeed ONLY 30% below the i7 965 clock for clock, then i think building an AMD right now is cheap and AWESOME! i mean really, i dont even need the power that the Q6700 provides, much less the i7 965...i just got it cause i was getting a deal -im1992
The CNPS9700 doesn't have a mount for it, it won't even work at all without buying one extra. You can probably buy one extra, but if you're spending money, you may as well buy a useful cooler. The stock cooler will work, but forget about overclocking, an i7 965 uses 70% more power than a 45nm Core 2 Quad. The Phenom II 940 is the fastest AMD chip so far. It's cheap, because even the Q9400 beats it (and you'll notice that's also a cheap CPU) AMD just can't produce anything faster. I'm surprised they haven't made a faster Phenom II given they seem to overclock alright, but perhaps there's some board-specific reason that means they'd only work with top end boards.
oh wow, i hope AMD comes out with something better...otherwise, be ready to start paying Intel a 1000 bucks just for a celeron and 10,000 bucks for the Extreme Editions!
I guess you did'nt read this? http://en.expreview.com/2008/11/26/amd-phenom-ii-bring-us-no-exciting-improvements.html and another thing it can be clocked to 4GHz even under high voltage. But if using liquid nitrogen for cooling, the frequency increases to nearly 6GHz. it's just review
That site's not loading in the UK. Either way, the Phenom II X4 940 does not have an appreciable lead over the Q9400. Most modern tests confirm that the AMD is better for some things, the Intel better for others. Unless you're a video encoder, the Q9400 is the CPU of choice between them.
guys...lets not fight over which brand is better @bigwill68, when i get my i7 965, lets put both our CPUs to the test, and let the benchmarks do the talking. -im1992
sammorris, Sam, I'm very puzzled by that statement about the Q9400 beating the Phenom II. Could you possibly give us a link to that! I know in gaming performance, the Phenom II is usually pretty favorably compared to the i7 920. Forgot the link! LOL!! http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/22 Thanks, Russ
If you want to catch a pretty thorough test then the one done by Anandtech is about as good as it gets. I read this and posted it elsewhere some time ago. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3492