The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!

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  1. haskins69

    haskins69 Member

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    chart's shows top AMD and core i7 sales are rising
    all others are dropping that's no suprize
    also shows intel has about 70% of all sales
     
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  2. sammorris

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    So i7 is at 10% of Intel's sales and rising. Seems about right.

    Athlon XP (I didn't even know they still made those): 0.066*0.3 = 2%
    Pentium D: 0.033*0.7 = 2.31%
    Athlon 64: 0.11*0.3 = 3.3%
    Celeron: 0.1*0.7 = 7%
    Core i7: 0.102*0.7 = 7.14%
    Phenom: 0.349*0.3 = 10.47%
    Athlon X2: 0.475*0.3 = 14.25%
    Core 2 Quad: 0.206*0.7 = 14.42%
    Core 2 Duo: 0.42*0.7 = 29.4%


    So basically, all the old dinosaurs comprise less than 15% of the market between them. All the Phenoms AMD sell, from the cheapest Tri-cores to the high end Phenom IIs, a wide market spectrum, cover only 47% more sales than i7 which is marketed solely as a top-end product. I think i7 is doing rather well so far.
    Meanwhile Core 2 Quads which cover the spectrum that Phenoms do, and a little more on top, are ahead of the Phenoms by 38%.
    In the Dual core race, the Core 2 Duos more than double the sale of the Phenoms.
     
  3. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    You know...if I didn't know any better, I'd say that windows 7 were picky about OC'ing! It seems like I read something similar about Vista and OC'ing. Perhaps there's some merit there huh?
    I cant seem to get anything above 3.5 stable in windows 7!!! I tried a voltage bump. I tried bumping the FSB instead of the multi, and it seemed more stable, without the voltage increase. In one instance, Black screen, in all other instances, BSOD. I guess tomorrow I can try increasing the RAM Voltage huh? But I dont think that would have anything to do with it. I had the voltage up to 1.425 before I became frustrated. I played with HT, FSB, multi. Perhaps a clear head in the morning :) Perhaps the CPU heard me speaking of the 1066 Ram ehh LOL!
     
  4. theonejrs

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    Oman7,
    I doubt that the memory voltage is a factor at the moment, depending on what it's clock speed is. That's another reason I like 1066 Ram in it. It runs at 1066, but you can use the next multi down 4.00 and you would have no worries about the memory voltage. I sure wouldn't bump the memory voltage more than 0.1v. I know that doesn't sound like very much, but DocTY told me a long time ago that I could raise it to 2.30v from a stock 2.10v, but he wouldn't recommend it! Considering Memory's his thing, and he does like to play with the memory settings, I'll take his advice, and I strongly suggest you do too!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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  5. sammorris

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    Vista and Win7 are a little more sensitive than XP, but I tend to find the sticking point is the Green bar. In XP you would usually get a crash if you were going to get one during the first 5 minutes of using the OS after you'd booted.

    Russ: What do you mean about 1.4V from 1.2V for RAM? Only DDR3 uses such a low voltage, and even then I thought it started at at least 1.3-1.4.
     
  6. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Sam

    I think he forgot to put a 2 where the first digit is. He probably means 2.2-2.4. I have my Corsair 1066 RAM hitting almost 1100 Mhz with 2.1V.
     
  7. sammorris

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    Makes sense, but even 2.2V is on the high side for DDR2. I usually use 2.15V, which is still 0.25V above default.
     
  8. shaffaaf

    shaffaaf Regular member

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    i ahev gone to 2.3v for months without a problem
     
  9. Sophocles

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    It really depends on the 1066 DDR 2 RAM. I like to stick close to the Corsair recommendation of 2.1. I just checked and my current setting is 2.12V. The RAM guy however often recommends up to 2.2V which I think is pushing the envelope for longevity and setting it to 2.4V is early RAM suicide. Also at 2.12 I don't require the Dominator fan setup which gets in the way and can be irritating if one is inside their case a lot. The setup is pretty much the same for both the Q9650 and Q9550 systems.
     
  10. sammorris

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    Currently at 2.15V (enough for Asus to give me an orange LED on the board instead of green), miles away from needing the Dominator module, I probed the RAM at 39ÂșC.
     
  11. im1992

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    Got my i7 965 a couple of days back...

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    Then where are the benchmarks? LOL
     
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    And the temps? :p
     
  14. im1992

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    i dont have anything except the CPU as of now...still thinking if i should even keep it? i mean, i can get the i7 920 for 300 bucks and that will probably be as good if not better than this i7 965

    lol, for the price i can sell this for, i can make a complete nehalem computer(~$800usd) with an i7 920

    what do you guys think?

    -im1992
     
  15. sammorris

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    If you're willing to overclock by any significant amount, you should sell the 965 for a 920. The 965 retails for $1000 at Newegg, you should be able to sell it for at least $800, which as you say, turns a good i7 system into a great i7 system.
     
  16. im1992

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    so will the i7 920 @ 3.2ghz perform the same as the i7 965 @ stock speed (3.2ghz)?
     
  17. sammorris

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    It won't perform identically, but it will be so close it does not justify anywhere near the extra expense (we're talking a small handful of percent at best here)
     
  18. im1992

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    so it wont be worth the extra 500 bucks (thats the difference for me)?

    since i can keep the i7 965 for 500 bucks
    OR
    sell the i7 965 for 800 and buy a i7 920 for 300...
    so the net difference for me is 500 bucks...

    thanks, im1992
     
  19. sammorris

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    Nowhere near it. 50 bucks, at the most 100 I'd keep it, but 500 you'd be mad. Word to the wise, try and find a D0 920, better for overclocking. I think they're SLBEJ.

    <edited: SLBEJ, not SLB8J>
     
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  20. Sophocles

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    If hardware is the same and both the FSB and memory are running higher than default on the i7 920 then the 920 will actually be a bit faster. As a rule overclocked speeds are usually faster than an equivalent processor at stock speeds because of the moderate addition of a wider front side bus and increased memory speeds.
     
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