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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. spamual

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    tbh russ do you really notice the performance difference?

    and just my opinion, the cheaper one is better IMO, so long as you arnt OCing the RAM, (you really need to go over 533 on the FSB?) and that fan is loud. i prefer the OCZ dual 60mm fans.
     
  2. cincyrob

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    well i looked at these also.2x1gb sticks still 1066.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...mpareItemList=N82E16820231144,N82E16820145043

    the dominator version with the fan in the 2gb kit is almost twice the price.

    Shaff
    my ddr2 800 mem is holding me back from getting higher than 4.0ghz with my E8400.
    9x450=4050.putting my mem at 900mhz im stable there but to go any higher even 455fsb my mem cant handle it. so i need the 1066 to take it higher. im sure with the 1066 mem i could get 4.5ghz 9x500=4500.that would put my mem at only 1000mhz still room to play. now im not sure if the E8400 will let me OC it to 4.5ghz but it will be fun to try...lol

    i think i will go with the 2-1gb sticks. still not sure as of which yet.that will only be $24 for 2gb of 1066 mem.after mir.
    that a 500gb hdd still leaves me enough money to squeeze out the HAF932.....$270 for all 3 parts after $40 MIR $230. i have $250 to spend.....BIG GRIN!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  3. spamual

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    i was talking about getting 1066, as it will allow you to have a 533 FBS..... (or am i not phrasing correctly?)

    im sure your sister knows :p

    tbh so long as the ram doesnt nned OCing and can run at its rated 1066 MHz value, AND has a lifetime warranty, GO FOR IT. and if you are usign vista 64 (which your not though ur sister says you should, get 2x2GB, or2x4GB :D)

    and i just spent, 250 POUNDS, on one case, talk about a reccession :D
     
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  4. Sophocles

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    Dominators.
     
  5. spamual

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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227335

    OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (The Official Memory of the Championship Gaming - Retail
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    OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (The Official Memory of the Championship Gaming - Retail
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    OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (The Official Memory of the Championship Gaming - Retail OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (The Official Memory of the Championship Gaming - Retail OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (The Official Memory of the Championship Gaming - Retail

    Original Price: $65.99
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    ($20.99 after $30.00 Mail-In
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  6. theonejrs

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    Shaf,
    For starters, both Dominators are the same price, but you don't need the fans anyway. Temperature wise the Dominators have better heat sinks and will run all day long at a nice cool 2.1v @1066MHz. There's no way he will ever need 533MHz on the fsb. That would be 4.2+ with his multi!

    I side with the people here I've known for a long time, and none of them run a high fsb and low multiplier. That would include Sophocles and DocTY, among others! I personally don't think it's worth it! I've yet to see any Sandra benchmarks that prove otherwise. I asked Nuck a bunch of times, but it never happened! I even offered him the software!

    OCZ makes good memory, but there's an awful lot of complaints from people getting a bad stick for my tastes. That Fatal1ty ones that you mention don't seem to be doing too well, gamer or not. Only 3 reviews, but two of those were bad! I'll stick with the Dominators myself! I've also never had a bad stick from Corsair!

    Russ

    BTW! I had 2x512 Corsair XMS Cas2 mixed wit a pair of 512 Value select Cas 2.5s. They ran at 944MHz with my D-940, at Cas2, I couldn't get over 900MHz with the G.Skills. I also bought G.Skill for my E4300 on the 965P and it did pretty good, and it never matched the performance or overclockability of the Corsair in my present machine. I could barely get it to 900MHz, I think I was stuck at 886MHz! Both Gigabyte motherboards, and I tried the same memory in this one and it wouldn't overclock for spit! I installed the Dominators, bumped the fsb up until the memory read 1066MHz on the 2.4x multiplier, and it runs great at 3.55GHz. 32,700+ MIPS with an 8,200+ memory bandwidth at 5-5-5-12! I'm just glad I finally came across a price for the Dominators I couldn't turn down! I put the G.Skill in Russell's machine and it works well with no overclocking. Very good memory that overclocks well with certain chipsets and motherboards. The Dominators will even overclock a bit. It will even boot up at 1110MHz, but it's not 100% stable, and since D9s are a bit fussy about their voltage, I went back to the 2.4x setting, rather than raise the voltage. I'm happy!

    RS
     
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  7. sammorris

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    Recession? no. Ignorance? yes. lol
    My cases cost no more now than they did when I bought them...

    Also, I'm with Russ on the RAM. Proper cooling in your case negates the need for a memory fan even without the dominator heatsinks, and I much prefer Corsair or G-Skill over OCZ and Crucial memory.
     
  8. spamual

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    my personal fave is geil black dragons, no cooling on them and mine run at 555 15 at 2.3Vs over 1150
     
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    2.3V is pretty high, but that's an impressive overclock nonetheless.
     
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    well i am happy with what crucial sent me in replacement of the crappy single sided 1066 mem i had, and for where im at in my build/OC the ddr2 800 has done well and up to 900mhz yes a nice little oc of the mem i wont recomend them to anyone that is thinking of any kinda OC.(well maybe to shaff my future bro in law...inside joke)
    for the price of the dominators right now it is way to hard to pass them up.$25 after MIR for 2x1gb sticks i think its like $74 for the 2x2gb stick so not as good a deal on 4gigs so id say this time tomorrow i should have them ordered along with the HDD.

    as far as trying 533fsb with a 9 multi i wont be trying. that would be a nice 4797mhz/4.79ghz OC i know i cant do that without 2.0v on vcore...lol
    but i will be trying 470-480fsb 4.2-4.3ghz then backing down to run at 4.0 stable for 24/7 speed. which would be 450fsb then use the 2.4 mem multi which will put mem at 1080mhz a weeeee little oc.

    with haven the bigger better mem. will it help the OCing the cpu and the vcore?

    EDIT:
    how about this mem? ive heard the great docTY likes useing these.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104044
     
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  11. sammorris

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    I think that's pretty much a given. The faster your memory is stable at, the faster your CPU can go... :p
     
  12. cincyrob

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    oh i know that sam..what i was trying to say with the better mem will it help lower the amount of vcore needed on the cpu.

    and now the 2x1 gig sticks of dominator are out of stock and no longer at taht sale price from yesterday.
    well i guess i will ahve to get them at microcenter then.
    http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0263429

    will be $39.99 after MIR. i got till the 26th to get them and rebate sent out
     
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  13. sammorris

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    I wouldn't have thought so really. If it does, I doubt it'll be by much.
     
  14. greensman

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    RedRob see if they'll matched the add from the EGG the other day. :) I know that MicroCenter does that at times and this may be the time to call in a favor from your "friend" there. :) Just an idea. :D

    btw I remember someone saying something about NOT installing a 2000rpm fan on a mobo header as it may cause some damage or something. I'm sure that some of the members here have done it besides myself and all seems to be operating as needed without fail. ;) I have a couple of the Antec Tri-Cools installed on an Intel rig (DFI) and an AMD rig (ASUS) and all is good so far. I have GOOD psu's hooked up and the ASUS has been running for well over a year now, close to 2 actually. :D Sam NOT picking on you, but did you say that?? You're the FAN-boy so thought you might have some insight on the matter. ;)

    ....gm
     
  15. sammorris

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    2000rpm 80 or 92mm fans would be fine, but a 2000rpm 120mm fan would be more current than I'd want to have running through a motherboard header. 2000rpm 120mm fans are pretty noisy though, so I'm not sure you'd want one that fast anyway.
     
  16. cincyrob

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    well newegg nas them on sale again but not hte same sale/$35 after MIR.but they aint in stock.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145043

    on my way to microcenter now to see what they have to offer..
    got-r-done@@@@@@@@@

    2x1gb 1066 dominator 5-5-5-15 2.1v will be in the big red machine in about 5 hours.

    4.2ghz + here i come. HAF932 has been set aside for me. next weekend it will be houseing the big red machine. so i have a RC690 with 7 fans in it setting waiting for the new years build(well the old stuff back in it and the new stuff in the HAF932)


    on my home to install them now.
     
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    ok new mem installed. wentin bios changed mem multi from 2.0 to 2.4 mem is at 1014mhz 507 a stick, still at 423fsb havent raised the OC yet.
    here is what i see in cpu-z just dont look right to me. is it supose to look like this?
    [​IMG]

    gonna raise the fsb now.
     
  18. spamual

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    seems correct to me, whats bugging you about it?
     
  19. cincyrob

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    not use to seeing it that way i guess..

    well haven 1066 doesnt help me getting higher oc...lets me get better speed from my mem. but 3.8stable is the best i can do. guess it was a waist getting the 1066.
     
  20. bigwill68

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    Sorry for the large images

    Well me a Cincy got the same memory at micro center..he went and got his first..then.. i went over and bought mine after..i believe it will pass orthos..voltage is on auto just to see where it stands under stress test..Cincy believe we need better boards 4 this 1066 memory..i'm gonna play around to see where..i can do setting...
    [​IMG]
    anybody believe the voltage kinda high for the memory?
    the cpu is rated at 1.5v
    [​IMG]
     
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