The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Good. Either they write the entire thing out in bytes or they use the correct values.

 

Rob,
It's not Windows that is stealing it, it's the disk format that does the stealing! It has to install the File Allocation Table and other necessary things in order to allow any OS to give you access to your files and keep them in order, all of which takes up disk space!

sammorris,

They are going to lose that one! LOL!! It's been tried before without success!

Russ

 

How many partitions have you setup on your new 500GB?
It helps seek time and makes things like defrags and housekeeping much easier.
It really is recommended to have windows on its own drive apart from your data or on a drive partitioned so windows is on one and data on another. Pretend you get a virus, its quicker easier to scan and fix (or format)the 30GB partition rather than the whole 500GB.
As far as reading the boot drive, BIOS can set which drive you read from first so simply make that drive first on the list. I havent had an OS on different drives before, but on the dame partitioned drive, it gives the choice to pick your OS every startup. With an OS on different drives I'd think you'd have to set the drive you want in BIOS to boot first.

 

cincyrob: I have both IDE & SATA, it seems that the IDEs are recognized 1st. I had to disconnect my IDE Drives for WinXP to install on the SATA,can't really say if this is 4 all Computers or just mine. As you've read this thread, U have probably noticed that I have been having difficulty's installing WinXP. Turns out the culprit is the USB Key Pad F8 not recognized. It was no biggie, I just disconnected the power line

 

lmao @ everyone....im still blameing windows..easier to do..lol
i mean look at it this way. all brands/make/models of hdd's are basiclly made the same some faster than others. and windows has the same effect on all HDD not just some. so in my twisted eyes its windows fault. does linux or any other OS do the same thing???

as for the partitions i have not done that with the 500gb drive. sorry 465gb drive.lol so if i make 2 partitions on it will that mean i have like 1 250gb then 1 215gb side?

once i deside on if im gonna like vista and keep it. i wanna make the IDE drive my main drive.so to save time i should wipe it clean then make it a bootable diskdrive then make a partition of say 60gb for the OS then the rest as storage so to say. 175gb left over

i kinda remember seeing in bios where i can choose which hdd to start with.

 

All OS do the same thing.

 

cincyrob: When installing a new system U can select how much of the HDD u Want to make as main partition. I usually use 1024x25Gig=25600, this has always been ample space 4 any needs I may have

 

Yes, or a 20 and 445, a 30 and 435, or a 30, 31, 404... you get the point

As an adult (age-wise anyway ) you are allowed to do what you want, but I question why, if youre going through all this bother of swapping, mixing and matching, you'd end up with your OS on your slowest drive instead of the faster data rates of an SATA.

 

is the sata hdd faster than the ide? they are both 250gb 16mb chache/buffer. i assumed the sata vs ide was the same with hdd as with ODD's? am i wrong? if so i will leave the sata 250gb drive as my main drive.. if it is slower(ide) i will just have to deal with it for a little while,until i can try out vista.
so if i partition off a drive with say 50gb for my OS then the rest as storage will it help speed up things with nothing else on the part of the drive,even though it is still on the same drive as other stuff?

still windows fault not seeing it all.

EDIT:
this is the drive i just got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136149

 

Yeah IDE drives tend to be slower as they're much older.

 

well this one is about a year older than my sata. i got it in feb 2007 my sata in feb 2008.

 

Not the age of the product, but age of the design. The IDE drives haven't really been updated since 2006.

 

Neither has RedRob but he still works.... hehehe. j/k Robert.

I think the transfer rates for the SATA HDD's are quite a bit faster than IDE but you still have to have the mobo for it. I'm NOT sure that RedRob has a fast enough mobo and good enough RAM to get the speed he wants... hehehe. Buy some NEWER stuff Rob and send me that old stuff you got....

....gm

 

cincyrob: Whats the warranty on that WD HDD
I Know Samsungs are 3yr, and they are the coolest running HDD
Seagates R 5yrs
I used to swear by WD, but of my older HDD they burnt out 1st. Replaced with newer WD HDD, they went bad 1st. Now I'm talkin 5 + yrs ago, everything changes over time. So probably they are back on track
WD and Maxtor were my favorites. Maxtor were great U could hear the clicking as they worked

 

From my experience, Maxtors seem to go first. Samsungs aren't inherently unreliable but their newer drives have several issues with their design. WDs are generally pretty solid and quiet. Seagates are loud as hell but are excellently reliable. Hitachis don't seem to have anything going for them at all.

 

Heres an ugly graph I found on a different website, although the speeds of HDD's are the same the interface speed is the difference. OK SATA-1 isnt a whole lot faster than the fastest ATA(133 mbps vs 150mbps) but go to sata2 and its more than double.

 

Wow I didn't realise ATA-5 didn't exist until 2000...

 

All U guys must have super hyper hearing. I don't really find any HDD noisy. But your right Deckstar sucks

 

hell if this mobo got any newer it still be in the factory under design..lol

the warranty on this WD as with all WD's i think are 3 years.
i wanted to get the segate 500gb but under the circumstances i went this route..lol this drive is kinda like turning on the C1E for your cpu.. it will speed up to 7200rpms when needed if not run at 5400rpms...just thought i try something different,to be different....better not say a word you greenturd..lol

 

Heh, when you compare a newer WD to a Seagate you realise how much of a difference there is...
Will be getting a couple of greenpowers for myself soon enough.