The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Little change of subject here: I'm getting ready to order new parts. Could use a little input
This is the case I'm going to order
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
This is the CPU & Memory Package Deal
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012
OCZ SLI-Ready 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227198
Now what I need is a good & fast Mbrd & CPU for Video Ripping and (encoding & recoding etc)..Programs such as DVD Shrink, AutoGK, ConvertX, Pegasys DVD Author.etc. Single,Dual,Quad core. I'm looking for something reasonably priced Mbrd needs at least 4SATA& 2pci
I'm thinkin this 4 Mbrd
ASRock P45TURBOTWINS2000 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...escription=&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
Don't know on the CPU

 

rick this mobo might really fit your needs. Biostar TPower I45 You save about $55 going with OpenBOX.

maybe one of these cpu's. link

I like the E8400 or the Q6600 personally. They both offer some real advantages and should be fast enough for your needs.

Is this the system for your grand-child?? If so you're building a nice little rig for them.

...gm

 

I'm assuming the Quad would B the better choice
Also I need a shallow CPU Cooler, can't have it stand to high

 

The Q6600 is a good choice for sure. If you do any encoding (DVD RB Pro) you will notice a time difference especially if you use Hank's Encoder. It uses all 4 cores IIRC.

These 2 coolers are pretty good but if you need something a little "shallower" you might get suggestions from the other guys.

....gm

 

No, you don't spout crap! I know that 2000 was NT based, but it was a complete departure from Dos based 2000-Pro. They can call it any number they like, but with such an extreme departure from DOS, XP had a different core. Judging by all the early problems with XP, I would say they were having a difficult time integrating it all. How much of that original core is left as part of XP is anybody's guess, but it would have to be considerably modified. The current NT revision for Win 7 is NT 6.1.6933!

The slowest thing on any computer is Internal and I/O functions. In fact, they are not all that much quicker than they were back in the 486 days of the 90s. It's nothing new, M$ has been choking the life out of computers for years with their various O/Ss. Everything runs faster today, once a program is up and running, but they haven't improved much in internal functions or I/O. Memory demands have gone from 256kb to 2GB or more. Disk storage has grown from Megabytes to Terrabytes. CPU speeds have climbed from the 16MHz of the 386 to over 3GHz of a lot of chips today. I have a feeling that Win 7 was created with Core i7 in mind, with it not being tied to the fsb any longer, and the memory controller pipelines being so small, it should be considerably faster than any previous OS in X58! You know M$ is going to pull out all the stops on this one as they can't have a repeat of Vista, or another ME! They are sure to get it right this time, and you know that can only be good for us end-users and enthusiasts!

Russ

 

I agree with you 100% on the BioStar MB! Asrock's quality is decent, but not near as good as the BioStar's! I used to use Asrock motherboards for all my customer builds, but discovered that they easily made the warranty period, but started giving problems after 1 1/2 to 2 years. The quality of Biostar's components is simply better! I also use their 780G motherboards for AMDs, and I'm real happy with those as well!

Russ

 

yep biostar, agreed!

(now to nudge in a punt for a P5Q )

Hexus.net as slating a Q1 10 release.

im glad MS did rush out vista, how ever bloated it was, or else everyone would have been complaining that there wasnt going to be a new OS for 9 years.

 

greensman: Those fans still look a little tall from the CPU to the top
Maybe the one that comes with the CPU is a better description to what I'm looking 4

 

XP was based on 2000, but the real 2000. I've not heard of 2000-pro, oh well.
I'd also agree on ASRock's quality being a bit so-so.
As far as Vista being MS' best OS though, the corporate attitude to it tells me that's just not true. Schools, large offices, global corporations all turning their back on it, I don't remember that happening before.

 

well im not saying its a fact its the best os for everyone, but for me, it has been

 

Hehe, my bad about the punctuation, I'll try harder.

And I always do talk about my experience, when have I not?

I have only posted Internet links to either back up my points, OR to bring some news about the PC world to the thread....

I know most people do not need an OS frequently, but, IMO, 3 years is not frequent, especially in this hobby we have where 6 months can make some items obsolete. Microsoft usually did put out OSes every 3 years, but XP to Vista was a major exception, and the delay was a long time. Some people like to moan about a lot of things, and one I remember was how much Vista was being delayed. But, as soon as it came out, there were now complaining it was a rushed OS...

When ever microsoft do something, there will always be the bashers, no matter what, and it annoys me. Either get one and use the new thing, or dont, but do not go spreading FUD and acting as if the company is the bane of the industry, especially when you are using their products (this is not to anyone here, but a generalisation of my experience of people and Vista, on many blogs/real life/forums around)

 

Rick
if your worried about the coolers that Greensman pointed out fitting in the SMILODON. the ACF 7PRO isnt as tall as it looks in the picks. it will fit nicely in the SMILODON with plenty room. i was worried about it myself but it is smaller than the pics show it.

with the options now of the E8400 right now, getting the E0 stepping is the way to go. and you should easly get the E0 Stepping now. like the others have said the Biostar TPower I45 is a very nice board, and combined with the E0 stepping E8400 it is a very good combination ans Russ pointed out a while back it has the worlds record for OC with the E8400.
Yes im a little Bias towards the E8400, but it is a awsome chip. and with the OC i have there is nothing that it cant do. now on that note it cant run the quad programs such as hanks encoder that GM mentioned,but there are few programs useing the quads full abilities. yes in the future im sure it will but when in the future is these programs comeing out?

$169 E8400
microcenter has it for 159.sometimes on sale for $139. that is dirt cheap for it


got my 250gb hdd(ide) in the hp rig now formating.once done gonna put it back in TBRM. and try a fresh install and see if i can get into the bios then,
Russ i tried the f12 button and still nothing is going on.

EDIT:
well formating the hdd didnt help.once the power button is pushed the fans and light and such run for 1 min 6sec. thats plenty long enough to get the gigabyte logo up and start windows... im getting nothing on the monitordont flash or nothing. is this my problem? would a faulty GPU cause the system to start and stop like this? gotta find a GPU and see if it is my problem.

 

I'm installing Windows 7 right now!!!

Cant wait! It's been goin much faster than Vista, and it's on a slower computer.

 

sammorris,

Here's a scan of the Disk.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5555/2000propn0.jpg
If you look just below the words "Windows 2000" on the disk, you can barely make out "Professional", but you can see it! It's an entire hologram so it's almost impossible to get a good copy of it! Here's the poop on it as well.
http://www.microsoft.com/products/i...ovr&pcid=58070f02-44c3-485c-b776-353bfeda43f6

Spamual,

You know better than that! We are talking a much lower price range here, and I wouldn't wish the cheap P5Q on a dog! It's had it's problems!

It's an OS! It either does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't, try something else! Mostly it has more to do with available drivers for new hardware than anything. It's not necessary to bring out a new OS just because the hardware has improved The OS can only work with the hardware if there are decent drivers for it! As long as M$ supports it, it should keep in step with any new hardware, via new upgrades periodically! The only reason an OS becomes obsolete is if they don't support it!

To my minds eye, a new OS should be an improvement all around with more function and better speed. How many years has XP-Pro been around? Now we have SP-3 and XP is finally about where it should have been when it was released. Even Vista, which was bog slow when it first came out has improved tremendously. It's still not as fast as XP Pro SP-3 yet, but it will get there, given enough time! Win 7 should easily outperform both Vista and XP-Pro, so that's a good thing for us all! About damn time M$ did something right! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

abuzar1..Is this the full Version or the one without the taskbar thats available

 

It's build 6801. The taskbar version is not out yet.

 

How about a link for that Win 7?

Russ