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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Yeah well, we all make mistakes like that, myself included. Don't beat yourself up about it... :)
     
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    Good grief sammy. :p You could find someone to buy them here (USA) and then send them to you cross Atlantic freight and still pay LESS than 1/2 what you're paying now!!! Seems a bit crappy to me. :(

    RedRob it seems that you have some different/difficult luck when it comes to RAM and your system. lol. Try some Mushkin... DOCTOR recommended. :D

    ....gm
     
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    Give these links a look see. I'm sure that you already have but I thought I would narrow down some choices for you as NOT to overload your already taxed brain. :)

    2x1GB 1066 RAM

    2x2GB 800 RAM

    There are more choices than this of course but I wouldn't have any issues picking one of these for my Quad or C2D. :)

    .....gm
     
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    Good memory performance is important for input and output because it feeds in and out of the FrontSide bus and when slowed can prove to be a serious bottleneck to your processors. Below is my memory performance.

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  6. sammorris

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    To clarify that statement a bit further, memory bandwidth hurts your CPU's raw arithmetic performance, so it will impact times for instance in video encoding, but the speed of the CPU for most real-world applications is completely unaffected by RAM, as a lot of benchmarks will demonstrate, so DVD encoders, make sure you have good RAM, gamers really don't need to be concerned.


    Also, my RAM is expensive as I'm getting 2x2GB of PC8500C5, not 2x1GB, or lower speed stuff.
     
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    I bought my 2x2GB Corsair Dominators PC2-8500 with the fans for 70 bucks a few months back.
     
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    This what you got there sammy? link

    ....gm
     
  9. sammorris

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    Yep, that's them. Cost works out about right, since the UK currency has fallen in the last month from 1.9 to 1.6, and since there are no rebates in the UK (which really doesn't bother me at all, I couldn't be bothered with the hassle and having to get lucky to get money off stuff), $118 works out at £74.73. Add VAT and you get £87.81, which is actually £2.82 more than I'm paying.
     
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    It's a sad day, my favourite disk of choice the WD5000AAKB has been discontinued at ebuyer - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129413
    Ah well, for any future pc's it'll have to be SATA i guess, but other places are still selling the AAKB so may buy some more before they all dry up..
     
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    creaky,
    The Segate is an excellent drive. I've gotten about 6 or 7 for my customers and they are quiet and reasonably fast for an IDE! Sata would be a much faster drive though.

    Russ
     
  12. sammorris

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    Can't say I've tried the IDE ones since ATA-33 days, but I know that the S-ATA Seagates are pretty loud. Then again, if you run a dozen of them, no drive is going to end up quiet, except perhaps a Greenpower.. :)
     
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    well i must agree with Sam here. noise isnt somehting i worry about. but the GP WD 500gb hdd i got. i cannot hear at all. i hear my 500gb sata seagate just a bit but nothing that bothers me at all. the GP drives are ultra silent. here is the one i got.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136149
     
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    Greenpowers are the quietest 3.5" drives ever made, full stop.
     
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    Luckily all my AAKB and AAKS's are as silent as can be, even when all 13 are running together. The other 2 WD's are slightly older and smaller, those 2 can be heard a little.
     
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    im pretty sure some 3.5" drives are quieter......even if they are floppy :p
     
  17. sammorris

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    Go find me a quiet floppy disk then... :p Those things are loud.
     
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    If you can find an old Teac or Matsushita drives, they are both fast and quiet. I have a Teac Dual drive that I won't part with. Considering they bring $40-$60 these days on e-bay, they are getting scarce! Very handy to have, as I occasionally have to transfer 5.25s to 3.50 disks. makes the task pretty easy as you can write directly from drive A to drive B and vice-versa!

    Russ
     
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    Why didn't anybody tell me to look at the db rating before I just ordered my halloween special seagate 640gb newegg??? How loud is it gonna be? (Doesn't matter right now, but I'm thinking quiet future new build.) :(
    -Rich
     
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    To recorrect memory bandwidth affects the performance of ones entire system. It not only effects encoding and transcoding but also transfer rates as well. It also effects multimedia and graphics rendering performance which explains why graphics card designers have been adding larger and larger chunks of memory to improve frame rates. ATI's latest cards includes one with GDDR5 memory to improve memory bandwidth to improve performance.

    There are some benefits of processor speed over memory bandwidth, especially with encoding, but only to a point. Information still has to run to and from the processor along a highway which we refer too has the FSB. A two lane highway limits the amount of traffic that can flow back and forth but a 4 lane highway allows for considerably more traffic, because it provides for two lanes in and two lanes out. If memory in any way slows that flow of traffic then it creates a bottleneck.


    Now can I ask if you guys are really debating on the speeds of 3.5" floppy disks on an overclocking thread??? LOL
     
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