The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

I added +.02v to my tape drive and it spools faster...

 

No sophocles, it's even worse than that, they are debating the NOISE level of floppies - it's shaff's fault as usual. LOL

As I understood Sam's point on memory bandwidth, Sam was referring to main system ram. Yes, on the graphics cards themselves we see some great leaps forward with bigger and faster ram, but I understood Sam to say that benches had shown that for gaming, at least, faster memory bandwidth on main system ram didn't seem to improve fps. I find that to be both surprising and puzzling.
-Rich

 

I guess they must be really bored if 8 bit technology has become a topic for discussion. LOL

I understood Sam's point regarding system memory. I was merely pointing out the areas in which memory improves performance. A GPU is analogous to a video card, what a CPU is to a system. Some games are more CPU intensive than others, and if that's true then some will utilize bus bandwidth and memory bandwidth to input and output data to and from the CPU. A bottle neck in that flow will result in lost frames. In my view there will be some loss even on games that are not that CPU intensive.

The trick is to find the balance between the two such as to eliminate bottlenecks. I find it difficult to separate a good overclock from an increase in memory speed which means that I also overclock memory as well. The need to increase the performance of one should not necessarily require the exclusion of the other to be realized.

 

I had a rather strange happening with my computer. My NIC didn't work one morning early in the week. No matter what I did, it wouldn't work. I tried both cables that are in my room as well as the two in the front room. They all worked with other computers attached to them. I just figured that it had died so I turned the on-board Lan off and put a LAN card in a PCI slot. Today I pulled everything apart to give the computer a thorough cleaning and when I plugged the Lan cable in I didn't think and plugged it into the on-board. For whatever reason I decided to turn it back on and see if I could get it to work. Much to my amazement, it's been working ever since. Anybody ever have something like that happen to them? Temperatures were about 50F both days, so there was no real difference in the conditions. Usually when something electronic goes wrong, it usually stays wrong, so this is a bit of a novelty to me! I was just wondering if anyone else ever experienced it!

Best Regards,
Russ

 

To me, that sounds like a driver issue like a corrupt driver. I removed the Lan drivers with Driver Magician and re-installed them from the MB CD, and it still didn't work. now for no reason that I can see, it's working again. Strange!

Russ

 

Hmmm - possible hardware issue? Hairline crack on mobo?

 

Opinions on this Please
http://www.compusa.com/applications...?EdpNo=4282928&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

I was thinking of adding 1 more HDD, as I don't really trust Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB HDD
2 DVD RWs
I think the PSU could handle this.
I can't think of anything else that might be needed
This will only be used for Surfing the net & Video Ripping & converting Audio & Video
HERES A Warranty List
http://www.compusa.com/applications...asp?EdpNo=4282928&csid=ITD&body=WARRANTY#tabs

 

Need Memory
OCZ Platinum Revision-2 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 x 1024MB)
Price: $44.99
Less Rebate: $30.00
Final Price: $14.99

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...50C&cm_mmc=Email-_-Main-_-WEM1750-_-giftguide

 

Rick,are these for you?you plan on OCing any?
ive heard that the platinum OCZ mem isnt all the good... they are in the same class as my crappy Crucial ballistix ddr2 800. if your lucky to get the good doublesided 16chip mem your ok,as with the crucial it is a luck of the draw as to which you get...if i rmember correct boozer has had these(3 or 4 sets) and dont recomend them. now i think our GM has gotten some of the gold series might wanna ask him how they are,thats if he has them yet and useing them.

here is a link to the gold series and the reaper series...ive read some good things about the reaper series.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...mpareItemList=N82E16820227231,N82E16820227124

they all are in the same price range after the MIR..$15-$16 for some memory is awsome

 

Rick,
The Deskstars are very fast, but quite noisy! I would throw that PSU in the trash though. They are really sub-standard, and IMO dangerous! I've replaced a couple in the last year, and they are right up there with Bestec and PowMax. The ones I replaced, both went up in smoke! No fire, but.... You can't expect much in the way of quality in a $40 case w/PSU!

Russ

 

Sam,
I take exception to that. I have 2 160GB Seagates in OxiMoron and one was in my rig for over a year and both are dead silent. They are hard to hear, even with the side cover removed. The Deskstar 250 I have in mine is noisy but fast. My WD 120GB is about as quiet as the Seagate. I had the Seagate and the WD in mine for a long time and both were extremely quiet. Mind you, both computers are about 3' away from where we sit, and you can not hear them at all. You have to put your ear right up to the case to hear anything! Gina says the same thing about hers, and she has the same case as mine! Maybe it has to do with your case being aluminum.

Respectfully,
Russ

 

my 2 seagates icant hear on a normal basis i do hear them now and then if i have them both doing something at the same time. and only haven the 1 WD greenpower hdd i dont hear it at all.tbh the only thing i do hear from my case is the fan on my cooler and the antec tricool fan in the front of the case,when i have it on high rpms.

 

I'll bet you even money that it makes a barely audible "Scratchy" sound, that you really have to concentrate on to hear at all. The Deskstar makes this "Bonking" sound and it's quite annoying! Sounds like Morse Code, under water! LOL!!

Russ

 

creaky,
I would assume that it has a 2.5" drive in it and I don't ever remember hearing a noisy 2.5" drive in any laptop, even my ancient Dell C610!

Russ

 

creaky,
Is this a standard PC setup or is it like the HP I had here recently that limited what you could do on it with it's own software package? A customer brought it to me the have XP-Pro installed on it, and it would only let you run HP's Recovery disk. You couldn't install a different OS or software!

Russ

 

Thanks for the link creaky! I see that they all have SSDs so there's no drive noise at all! LOL!! No moving parts so it's dead silent. Nice! I wonder how long it will take for the price to drop on a decent sized SSD?

Russ