The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Mine are on 24-7, the little E-Machine 14" ran for 5 yrs without being cut off. Till I got my new SOYO bout 6mons ago, but the 14" still powers up a a checker for my new builds, and its on at least 6 to 8 hrs while I load programs and check everything. About once a month

 

rick here is a few to look at. I included the Antec as well, it's a good buy and a good psu from the reviews. I may have a "promo" code for it as well. I can't remember. Russ may have it too.

....gm

 

I think the "drunk" creaky is a little more engaging and even a bit more humorous. Of course that behavior from a MOD is few and far between but NICE to see for a change of pace. creaky I truly hope you find gainful employment soon and maybe before your 40th. Of course I'd have to find it in less than 3 days if I was the one searching.... hehehe. I is getting OLD!!

RedRob you trying to mooch free beer again?? Shame on you and from a "jobless" person as well.... I guess you lot try to hang together... hehehe.

All in good fun lads!!

Happy Computering....

....gm

 

I looked at the SCEPTRE X22HG-Naga Black 22" 2ms very impressive
But the Acer carries a 3 yr warranty, unless your a gamer I can't really see how signifant 2ms vs 5ms response time can be. The specs on both are about the same

 

They lie about the response times anyway.

 

Usually the ms quoted is actually twice that number. It's for Grey to Grey, and that's pretty useless. That would make the Acer 10ms. Check that and see because if it's 5ms G to G than it's 10ms actual. I'll check it out and get back to you!

Russ

 

my monitor is 14 black to white, 11 grey to grey and is perfect for gaming, response times are meaningless.

 

I don't know about meaningless but it seems that "feature" is over-stated for what you get. I've looked at a lot of monitors and LCD TV's lately and I like Samsung. A little more money but the picture is fantastic from my perspective.

...gm

 

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think that your screen itself is on 24/7. I don't use any screen saver, because there's no advantage to doing so. All a screen saver does is put more stress on the screen drivers. My screen goes completely black after 10 minutes, which shuts the screen driver off. My screen is on most of the day, as I'm on the computer most of the day. Leaving it on 24/7 is a lot different than actually using it 24/7. My screen is on more than half of that time period, and most times it's on for 4-5 hours at a stretch without the screen turning off at all, like when I'm practicing playing the organ or running an air turbine simulation! Hell, I'm pretty much "house bound" as I only get out maybe once or twice a month, so the computer is my only connection to the outside world. I also read books on it, study, play games on Pogo and so on. That's why I say I abuse the hell out of it! It still works, but it's a PITA to get it to stay on. I have to set it so the monitor never shuts off, because if it does, I have to go through turning it on, off and on several times until it finally stays on. I'm not upset with Sceptre because I know that I am pretty much an exception to what most folks would call normal use. In 2.5 years of use, I've probably put more like 5 years of normal use on it.

The $75 flat rate repair from Sceptre is outstanding, considering that most places that repair LCD monitors charge around $125 or more for a 20"

Russ

 

Here's a pretty good explanation of response time and why some are better than others, and what it all means.
http://static.tigerdirect.com/html/Guide-to-LCD-display_reponse-rate.html

Russ

 

so i would say by reading that article JR that if you are gaming you want at least 8ms or below

 

Thanks for that Russ. As most LCD monitors are below 12ms we should be fine if we buy something that has a "decent" reputation. I still like the Samsungs.

...gm

 

yeah i think the samsungs are some of the best

 

All of these monitors are cheap, therefore TN panels. TN panels are known for having fast response times, so you should all be good in that aspect.

 

Wow, that tiger direct article on response times was interesting, and confusing at the same time. Sam said his response times are 14ms white to black, and 11ms gray to gray (using the "correct" spelling of gray lol). But according to the article, gray to gray is a longer time than white to black, so Sam's number "should" be inverted.

Also, this may be picky, but doesn't anybody proofread anymore?

Whoops!

Secondly, what do we want, thick gap or thin gap?

Are "reduced" and "thick" synonyms? I stopped reading at that point - their credibility was blown. I'm not trying to be a complete a**hole about this, but when I read a badly flawed technical article which makes my head spin, ("they said this, but did they really mean to say this") I have to go back to what Sam says - all the little measurements are cr*p, and just ask somebody, is the monitor any good. Or read hopefully a better Anandtech article or review. I'm thinking about buying Sam's monitor, so that's the approach I'm talking for what it's worth. LOL

Happy Birthday Greeny!
-Rich

 

How about a decent Web Cam, my granddaughter is wanting one

 

Thanks mate but 1 1/2 days to go.

I don't do this very often but until I read something that makes "redneck" sense I'm with Sammy. ALSO as ddp pointed out it's what looks good to you.... so I'm standing on Samsung for now until "I" see something better.

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oh btw... got my OCZ 2x2GB RAM in... NOW just need the extra hour to mess with it. :O

 

Yeah, I had to read that one a couple of times before I finally understood that they were not intended to be synonymous. They could have worded it a little better and it wouldn't have caused confusion. Rather than say "These quick response times modeled with new LC materials", they should have said "new LC Technologies" and it would have been evident what they meant. In other words they have found a way to make thick cell gap screens perform better, and give as good a picture as Thin cell gap monitors. It's still a useful guide for someone trying to sort out all the differences in LCD screens!

I'm seeing screens right now in the Medical field (where money is no object) that would blow away anything available for computers. I'm pretty sure you can see the need for clarity and speed in those applications, with way better speed and density than even my .024 Dot Pitch 19" CRT. The good thing is that eventually this technology will trickle down to the computer level. Right now the price would be just too high for most folks. I don't think too many people could afford a $10,000 screen!

Russ