The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

rick the PSU looks good to me. The last few reviews were complaining about rebates and such. It seems the PSU is a good little deal if you ask me.

Looking at both of those cpus I'm not sure what to think. The 6000 has a higher power consumption but it also has 2MB L2 cache while the 5050 has 1MB L2 cache. Just based on that I would go with the 6000 as I don't really care about power consumption on this level. Of course you have to make sure your intended PSU can handle the job and that one should with no issues.

btw is this going into the little rig for your grandchild? If so this will be a fun little rig and have plenty of power.

You gonna get the 780G mobo that Russ was talking about? I think that I was one of the first people to get one. They're dang good for he money and very capable for the use you intend.

...gm

 

Well, congrats, your build is cheaper than the one I listed, but it's got half as many parts. I've listed an entire system for less than $300, not just the parts you need for your upgrade. To say that AMD are cheaper just because you don't need to buy all the other stuff doesn't make any sense.
Using the E5200 and 4GB again instead of the cheaper CPU I added, the total cost is still only $339. Adding a hard disk, DVD drive, case and Power supply to your little list the minimum it's going to end up at is around $380,$390. Sixty dollars more for a pretty insignificant processor upgrade, and the stuff I've chosen, even on a $339 budget, from what I've read can still overclock, so it still has the potential to even best the AMD system that costs 60 bucks more.
As you corrected me, you buy the best you can afford within your budget. Looking at these facts, that's still intel, by a considerable margin.

Rick: The Thermal power is the approximate amount of power that a CPU uses, it's very vague, but it gives you a general idea. The 6000+ uses a full double what the energy-efficient ones do. That again is something to consider - the AMD build will cost you up to $40 a year extra in electricity.

 

Hi dose anyone know of switch that i can buy for turning the fans on and off in my pc as i have decied to but this case.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clear-Acrylic-Gaming-Case-4x80mm/dp/B000SEB6AG

also will someone recermend a brand of fans aswell as i want to change the stock fans in the case.

 

i see $207 inc the rebates:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk50/shaffaaf27/Capture-17.png

creaky changed the pic to a link as pic was throwing the page margins out..

 

navskin you can try a fan controller like the Sunbeam Rheobus and use that to turn fans off, up, down and so on. I have the RHK-BA and it works ok... just remember that baby is BRIGHT!!!

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...gm

 

That case has no front door to cover up the LEDs so you might want to remove them, they are absurdly bright, but the Rheobus is a very nice fan controller apart from that.

 

Rick,
What I was talking about the 3.1GHz 6000+ 89w.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272
There's 2 6000+ CPUs Same 2MB L2 cache as the one you posted, just a little bit faster and a few dollars cheaper!

I think the 45w 5050e would be a better choice for purpose intended. Not as fast, but much cooler

Russ

 

First reviewer mentions something interesting about the 6000+, in that cheaper boards don't actually have the means to power it properly...

 

sammorris,

I never said or implied that. I said that for me, all I need is the MB for Oxi so my cost to upgrade it is only $65! I would need a MB, CPU and memory for a new build. I have everything else! Pretty much any Intel I go with I would have to buy a new video card for.

spamual,

Yes, but there's sales tax and shipping also. they for some reason print that part. The sales tax is also on the total price before rebates. I keep saying that this is to be a stock machine. I don't plan to overclock it, so why do you and Sam keep giving me parts that have to be overclocked to be faster than the AMD I was considering. That's the whole point, I don't want to overclock it. I'm very happy with the way the 4400+ ran, and I used it constantly for 3 days. I never had a time where I wished I was using my computer instead. Not even encoding! The AMD 5050e 2.5GHz would be plenty fast enough for me in that BioStar MB. I'm not a gamer, so why overclock. I've been saying for a long time that I wanted to build a nice AMD machine, and to me, this is it!

Russ

 

Not the 780G biostar! The A780G M2+SE is designed for 95w CPUs. Biostar recommends using a 95w CPU for it

Russ

 

We are being repromanded for solely recommending Intel systems over AMDs due to the cost increase of doing so, apparently. We have both just proven that's nonsense.

Again, this isn't personal, it's for general builds, why do we offer overclockable parts? Because we can. It is less than a dozen keypresses to overclock an Intel with rock solid stability. In any case, Unless you buy a 6000+, the stock Intels can keep pace with the AMDs anyway, let alone when you can squeeze so much out of them from an OC.

 

Yep thats what I'm thinkin for my Grand Daughter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
MEM 55.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103298 Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB 90.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103233 Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 CPU 90.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138134
MB 65.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012
PSU 54.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106266
DVD-RW 26.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228
DVD-RW 22.00 .......
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009151
Monitor 130.00 ......
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823235001
KeyBrd & M 18.00 .....460.00 TOTAL

Haven't really made up my mind on the CPU yet, but I'm swaying towards the Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2

 

Oh agreed, I'm certainly not forcing people to overclock, and it's their choice, but if they consent, the more tech-literate should at least be aware of what extra they can get for their money ;-)

 

the thing was russ you never said it was a personal build, you keep changing what your saying everytime we prove you wrong.....

overclocking to 3ghz from an e5200 or an e2180 is so simple. why spend more when there is nothing a 3ghz c2d cant do, and much better than any x2.

and if you leave the cooler and get an e5200 itll be faster than most if not all X2s.

 

Despite that, I do echo ddp's comment. not everybody should overclock. I tend to mention it in passing ("can be overclocked if you're into that sort of thing") and those who sound intelligent and interested then get instructed. Fact is, the Intels aren't really any slower than the AMDs even at stock, so there's nothing lost there. By getting people to buy Intels I'm actually curbing power usage too - over a lot of builds that adds up. Whatever you think of AMD, I care more about the environment than I do then. I've spec'ed a lot of builds over the years, by my estimates I'd reckon perhaps a couple of hundred. Wasted power adds up over that many systems. Granted my system is a Planet-melter in a box, but I actually make use of how much power it uses, the average user who wants a budget basic box doesn't. Heck, every time someone buys a Seagate HDD over a WD GreenPower they waste energy.

 

ddp, read the title

 

This can only end badly...