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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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    This is the WC system that I'm interested in. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108105 They say that you need a radiator kit to mount it on the outside of the case, but common sense will tell you that if you just reverse the internal installation, with the radiator mounted on the outside. it should work just fine. I see no point or advantage in having all that heat inside the case, as it just puts more strain on effective case cooling!

    Regards,
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    it happens a lot! LOL

    I have two of the previous version still in a box unused. They went on sale about a two years ago and I couldn't resist. Donald (6402640) purchased one and swore by them so I grabbed a couple and then went to something far more sophisticated. Go figure. LOL
     
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    If you don't mind me asking Soph/Russ, how is the Donald? I haven't chatted to him in ages.
     
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    Last I heard was he's doing fine, it just that his priorities have changed for a while. Other things that need doing!

    Russ
     
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    Seems fair enough, glad to hear all's okay in that world. How about Brobear? (Sorry I won't derail again)
     
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    Pretty much the same as Donald. pop's in once in a while to say Hi!

    Russ
     
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    Good stuff.

    Are there restrictions on which AM2 chips you can stick in geforce 6100 boards? My mate's fileserver could do with an upgrade from a Sempron :)
     
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    Donald, l8, and I've restarted the Hounds folding team so we hear from him everyday. He hasn't changed much, his humor is as dry as ever. In fact he's online at hounds this very moment.
     
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    Wow, that takes me back. Bet one of your machines can probably do as much work as the whole team used to do!
     
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    As far as I know, AM2 and AM2+ are motherboard related and have nothing to do with the chip. If it's socket "F" it should work for any single or dual core socket "F" chip! The Low Wattage AMD's are designed to make better use of the features of the AM2+. That's why my big interest in the 5050e with the "e" being the key as it will gain all the features of the AM2+. If it does what I expect it to do, here's my new PC!
    [​IMG]

    Would look real nice with my sound system and it's perfect for me! 2 Opticals, 2 Sata HDDs. Finer than a Red Froghair! AMD is going to sell a ton of these new chipsets and a lot of the "e" CPUs as well!

    Russ
     
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    rick I've purchased quite a few "open box" items and had NO problems what so ever. It may be luck of the draw but I've purchased 6-7 open box items and the EGG is still batting .1000. :D I even bought an ACF7 from them. :)

    ....gm
     
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    Rick

    I also have purchased a lot of open boxed items with no regrets at all and when I say a lot I mean a lot. LOL


    Individually all of our rigs can do much more than our old systems did. We are bringing in more points in a day than we used to bring in for a whole month, about 45000 to 50000 points per day combined.
     
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    Hey Russ, I followed your link on that water cooling kit:

    this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108105

    and it was interesting, but there are some pros and cons. The price is nice at $139 - not really much more than a Tuniq or what not, and one of the reviews said it had been awarded "best water cooler under $2,000" ???? and most of the guys were getting 20 degree cooler than air, which is exciting.

    But lots of the newegg reviews talked about leaks. Apparently the block is plastic, and there is an o-ring that is problematic - you have to really tighten it down carefully. Are you put off by that at all, and if not, why not?
    -Rich
     
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    You will never find a perfect review on anything that requires thinking from newegg. The truth is that things go wrong but why they go wrong often depends on who's at the other end.

    I purchased this item a little over two years ago and it is still working like a charm. All that I have to do is top it off with a little distilled water every now and then. It won't fit in your case because the unit is too large. I've grown since then but it as good a unit as one can buy for $149.


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181004
     
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    Plastic anything other than the pump casing (sometimes even that too) and the actual tubes = leaks. ALWAYS.
     
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    It's a problem that cropped up early, and has been addressed as you can well imagine it would be. The WC blocks on some of the Asus motherboards suffered from the same problem. It should be a non issue at this time. Lets face it, they wouldn't stay in business very long if the problem wasn't corrected!

    Russ
     
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    Sophocles, that little external cooler looked good - what type of waterblock - plastic or not? The 500 watts of cooling sounded quite sufficient for sure - sounds like it would take care of a cpu and a 4870x2 board at the same time. Is there anything that would fit in a tempest (virtually a full tower) that would provide as much cooling?

    Russ, staying in business without correcting a problem? Hmmmm, well, I don't know about that. Gecube stayed in business for quite a while, and the entire time their tec coolers kept uncoupling from the x1950 graphics cards - thank god I never got around to buying one.

    What do you say about sam's comment, which is the same thought that I had - plastic equals leaks. I would think that one would at least want to make sure that the water block was a solid non-plastic part that was not going to leak all over your card, be it mobo or gfx. Out of curiousity, if you know offhand, how much more would it cost to upgrade to a system with that type of water block for somebody say, like sam, who refused to trust plastic waterblocks.
    -Rich
     
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