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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. greensman

    greensman Regular member

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    Thanks for pointing that out Sammy. :)

    Zalman 850

    Antec 850

    On the surface they are good units but the Zalman stands out to me with the extra 28A rails. Looks like a true 850W continuous or more could be obtained out of this unit. This doesn't make the Antec a bad unit, it just might fall short of the Zalman. Both are the same price and if it was my money I'd put it on the Zalman. Again thanks for the response Sammy. ;)

    ....gm
     
  2. sammorris

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    I say this because I'm pretty sure Antec are one of the manufacturers who failed the genuine 1KW rig test, whereas I think Zalman and Corsair passed it.
     
  3. theonejrs

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    Sorry russ I didn't know that, cheers for the heads up. My q9550 got returned by ebuyer, well they sent a new one to me and on the box it says SLB8V. If I'm not mistaken...... E0?
     
  5. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Yes, SLB8V is E0, SLAWQ is C1. Looks like the RMA paid dividends... Try not to break this one eh? :p
     
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    Red_Maw Regular member

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    I just installed my new RAM (Corsair Dominator PC28500) and cpu-z has it listed and single channel. Have I set something wrong or is cpu-z wrong?

    Thanks,

    Parker
     
  7. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    You need to use alternate slots, i.e. 1&3, or 2&4. The sticks can't be directly next to each other (i.e. 1&2, 2&3, 3&4)
     
  8. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    If you installed your RAM side by side then try installing it in slots 1 and 3. Memory slots are color coded so if the first module to the left as you look down is yellow then install the other module in a slot of the same color.
     
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    haha thanks Sophocles. When I read your post I realized what I'd done, it also occurred to me that I've had my RAM put in like that since I first built this system.
     
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    Some of the new 780 and 790 chipset MBs are side by side http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128373 , while others are odd and even http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130136 That ought to confuse everyone! LOL!!

    Russ
     
  11. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Wow, that's odd, never seen that before...
     
  12. Sophocles

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    I am aware of that and I posted to reflect that which is why I said "IF it is installed side by side THEN try installing in slots 1 and 3", and then to further clarify my statement I also said install them in like colored slots. So what was not clear about that?

     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey people. Hoping one or more of you have some advice on the best (not ridiculously expensive) PC8500 ram. The Quad Core crashed today (first time it's done it) and subsequent reboots resulted in the dreaded endless reboot cycle.
    Swapped out the graphics card, no joy (my m/board has a gazillion led's for troubleshooting but couldn't be arsed to look thru the manual plus didn't use another pc to google as was hoping it was only the ram). Anyways, took out all 4 ram sticks and tested one by one and in pairs until i found 1 stick that wouldn't allow the pc to boot. So put that one aside and a good one put separately.
    Left the other 2 good sticks in and am back up and running again.


    Anyways, i very much doubt that any other sticks are going to suddenly go pop but i'm very distrusting of elecctonics/anything electrical so want to check out potential replacement ram.
    Mine are Crucial Ballistix 1GB x4. PC nor ram are overclocked but i still want to stick with 1066Mhz ram.
    Still have to investigate whether i can return the faulty stick to Crucial, have had these sticks approx 1 year now..

    Any suggestions ?
     
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    Corsair Dominators are one of the most reliable 1066mhz RAM you can get. They are not that expensive either.

    Crucial ram is horrible these days. So what you get back from the RMA might not be that great.

    EDIT: Also for best reliability get 2x2GB.
     
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    creaky

    It doesn't get any less expensive than this. If you're not running a 64 bit system then 4 gigabytes of RAM is only netting you about 3.2 gb of actual RAM. I don't know which operating system that you're using but if it's WinXP then just two of those sticks is more than enough, because XP can only allocate a maximum of .8 Gb for a single application. That should allow you more than enough time with no detectable loss of performance just using two sticks, and since Crucial RAM has a lifetime guarantee you should get a replacement.
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Cheers abuzar; i remember the discussions (maybe as long ago as last year) re good/bad batches of Ballistix, and i'd been lucky (well so i thought) to have a good batch or few.
    As to the reliability of 2x2GB, remember i don't overclock so surely 4x1GB would be more reliable (to me) ??, - ie where i am now is that 1 of my 4 sticks is dead so i can still use 2 good ones and still have a spare...

    ..i'm probably being blonde though :)

    edit- Soph of course is also right; i do indeed only use XP 32-bit on this box and am only into video encoding, 2GB is more than enough for my needs so i'm certainly good for now.

    I digress but today i rediscovered my fondness of Quake 3 Arena and 'WinQuake' plus i'm now hooked on 'Urban Terror', but 2GB is still all i need for now (all these games work on my netbook too!!).
    I have a feeling i need to shutdown to swap the dimm slots over as i think i'm only running single channel mode at the moment - sorted that now..
     
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  17. sammorris

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    I haven't had any memory go bad on me except cheap nasty Nanya stuff a few years back. All the Corsair sticks I've used have performed admirably. The 2x2GB PC8500 Dominator set I use now will set you back £80 from Scan. As far as needing 4GB goes, if you are only ever using one application perhaps you will only need 2GB, but one main app and the rest of windows humming idle has often peaked me over 2 gigs, so I see no reason not to get 4GB these days, it's pretty much mandatory for big apps.
     
  18. Sophocles

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    I have those same modules in my main rig because I intended to go 64bit, but in my most recent build I went to the 2X-1Gb modules because there was no evident boost from the extra RAM in the other 32bit system. I've found that with 32bit systems after 2 Gbs RAM bandwidth nets far more performance gains than going jts from 2 Gb to 4Gb.
     
  19. sammorris

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    For solely video encoding, I'd expect that to be the case. When using the PC as an actual workstation as well though, particularly if you open several web tabs at once, it's nice to have the extra memory.
     
  20. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, trouble is i have too many machines, i'm a PC whore, but the bonus is that it doesn't matter if anything breaks, i just hop onto another box.
    Lately all i seem to use is the netbook, with it's tidgy 30W power brick - bless it.
     
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