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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Sam,
    Not really. You can still get a 940 Phenom II for AM2+, as well as a few others. At the moment it's difficult to find out which ones are compatible with bith AM2+ and AM3. I was looking at that 550 Phenom II that shaff mentioned, and while it says AM3 on newegg, checking the motherboard list at AMD for it shows a number of AM2+ motherboards, other than the 790FX, so I have to assume that it will work with either AM2+ or AM3!

    Russ
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    True, but the 905e is a more attractive proposition with its decent energy usage.
     
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  4. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    I'm assuming you glossed over the other caveat they posted after that :p

    I do think the 550 is a better CPU than most Intels, certainly for the price, and have for a while, but this is not, nor will it ever be the reason why.
     
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    OK. Take (strike?) 3
    :p
    CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106
    MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366
    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
    Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125236
    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
    DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
    Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

    Im hoping to buy all this OR would this MOBO; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128378&Tpk=gigabyte ma790xt Work better?
     
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    Yes the dual core Phenom IIs are turning out fantastic. You should not depend on unlocking them, but stock they are very good CPUs for the price. All AMDs, Athlons/Phenoms/Phenom IIs have always performed quite decently in games compared to Intel so it's no surprise to see the X2 550 doing well. If my 7750 BE can push a 9800GTX+ this well in games, I see no reason why the 550 can't do the same job but faster with lower power use. I'm certainly interested in one for my 780G board. Thus my wondering if they are AM2+ compatible.
     
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  7. theonejrs

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    Tap_paT,
    I hate to tell you this but you have the wrong CPU. It's AM2+ only! I'm waiting for the AM2+/AM3 myself. Only the Phenom II x4 810, 945 and 955 are Phenom IIs for socket AM3, at the moment!

    Russ
     
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    the only thing i would change would be the dvd burner(other than a Q9650 and a ASUS P5Q Deluxe). take a look at this bad boy.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030
     
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    Very nice choice Rob. I would have probably suggested the same. In fact, I just did suggest it to somebody at work :O I have NO complaints with my Optiarcs. Except that they're not quite that good at Ripping/reading. But that's not why I bought them. They're EXCELLENT burners. THAT'S why I bought them :) My LH-20A1H has proven itself the best reader. Though the DRU820(Sony), has read some VERY nasty looking discs. Though I think it has a Panasonic chipset. I don't burn with it anymore though. It doesn't like burning any quicker than 4X, and even at that speed, it's beginning to show Degradation toward the end of the disc.

    For Trekkie Fans

    I strongly recommend checking out this guys videos. It had me laughing SOOOOOOO hard my stomach and cheeks hurt. This guy is a friggin genius! I like all of the videos, but "TNG edit 24" is probably my favorite.
     
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    Rob,
    It's a moot point! If he doesn't change his choice of CPU, it's not going to work anyway! ROFL!! The CPU he linked is AM2+ only!

    Russ
     
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    from the reviews im reading, the x2 550BE can do AM3 and AM2+
     
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    Ok, re: 3rd attempt
    We almost got there, but no, that's an AM3 board with an AM2+ CPU and DDR2 memory.
    You could use either of those boards if you changed the RAM to DDR3 and the CPU to an AM3 one, but as it is, you would need to use an AM2+ board with the other components.

    By the way thanks for the youtube link, I saw a few of these once on someone else's PC and I'd been looking for them for ages!
     
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    youtube?
     
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    Nuts, was it not this thread? I thought it was.


    Yes, yes it was. Omegaman's post. Probably won't mean much to you if you're not familiar with TNG.
     
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    Estuansis,
    100% Yes! See here!
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-athlon-ii-x2_13.html#sect0

    Nice overclock too!

    Russ
     
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  16. sammorris

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    Mmm, the lower overclock ability of the 550 renders them about even though, the power consumption of the two is roughly the same stock, the 550 uses about 3-5W more.
     
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    XD
     
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    @Tap

    The 4850 you listed is $170. You can upgrade to a 4870 512mb for $146

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161268

    or the 4870 1gb for $165. Either way you get more performance for a lower price.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161269

    The motherboard you selected is AM3 only as the others have said. you will either need to get an AM2+ mobo or change to an AM3 cpu and DDR3.

    AM3
    cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675
    ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231189

    AM2+
    mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387
     
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  19. bigwill68

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    everyboby's choice is different...I would change the mb 4 sure running that cpu Am2+ sense i'm a biostar fan with this combo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.200065

    video would be different also with a msi brand
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127406
    or the one Russ perfer so much i forget which model he said

    burner is fine to me only thing you can't nero scan with it...I have the models
    gh22np20 and the gh22ns30 both burn at 95% to 98% burn quality scans with Verb's and Taiyo's for me remember it's the dye quality on the blank media

    I don't use lightscribe to much anymore but..I'm willing to try this model here out in a couple weeks it's on my list buying odd's for stock...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118032
    free shipping for me it's who you know at the egg:)
     
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    You do realise the 9800GT is miles behind the HD4870? There's a reason it's half the price.
     
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