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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    I may just give Biostar and Intel a shot next time. Depends on where they stand when I do it. Next time, im gonna have some money to throw around :D
     
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    Biostar depending on chip is nice and Intel if you don't wanna OC is great from what I've heard. ;) What about MSI, DFI, or ASUS depending on use and platform? ;)
     
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    Lol at the video - plus I notice it's HAWX, promoting ATI's graphics. Given how abuse ATI's performance is in that game, plus the DX11 card generation, I don't think 6 24" monitors at max detail is unrealistic to expect from a high end HD5800 series crossfire platform :p After all, 6 24"s is only effectively 3.5 30"s, and given that one HD4870 can run HAWX at 2560x1600 reasonably well, all you would need to max it out smoothly is 4-5x the power of a 4870 - that should ideally be something like an HD5870X2.
    Notice the two GPUs, and the 3dmark far higher than mine (23,020) - 3dmark06 is such a CPU test these days :p

    and that's just it, if you're a high end builder, it's Intel I'm afraid. There literally are no top end AMD products. The i5 750 has effectively rendered the X4 965BE midrange.
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    After the OCZ Neural Impulse Actuator I'll believe anything.
     
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    I was talking about MOBO's... I re-read the post by Oman7 and it seems he was indicating a Biostar mobo and Intel cpu. ;) I'm slow at times. :p
     
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    Yeah we don't like Intel's motherboards. Well, with the possible exception of Skulltrail :p
     
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    anandtech got to also see 6 x 30" monitors play 7680 x 3200 World of warcraft at 80FPS.

    Left for dead at 7680 x 1600 (3 x 30" monitors).

    and a playable framerate for the DX11 drit 2 with 2xMSAA at 7680 x 3200


    BTW this is a single GPU card they were using....
     
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    A 2GB HD4890 by any chance?
     
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    LOL @ the XFX page.
     
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    they say its the DX11 card with over 2.1 billion transistors, which form the leaked specs puts it exactly being a 5870
     
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    Sounds good. I would expect it to be the 2GB version for resolutions like that.
     
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    Interesting Russ, just look back at the movie Strange Days, already saw a show the other day I forget which one on implanting things in the brain to do all kinds of things, already in the works, me and you won't see in our life time but most youngsters will. Never say never anymore.
     
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    I don't know that the 750 is the best Intel has to offer, but I do agree with Intel being the current top dog at present. And if that continues, when I have proper funds, I'd like to give intel the attention it deserves :D I'd like to see this "Number crunching Behemoth"
     
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    The i5 750 is the cheap Lynnfield. It's of course the best value, but above it you have the i7 920 (sort of), 860, 870, 940, 950, 965 and 975. That's quite a lot of CPUs AMD can't compete with...
     
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    By compete, you mean performance wise. I'd agree with that from what i've read.
    Lets say you had 1000$ to spend on 975 Extreme edition. Is it worth it? Or could the lesser models be Oc'd to match its performance. Is 975 merely an Oc'd lesser model, thats been Oc'd internally.
     
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    Of course I do. AMDs are good value in almost every segment of the market they are in (the only exception I can think of being the 900 quads as of the i5's release) but apart from that, in the i7 area, there aren't any AMD CPUs to be competitive.
     
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    Oman7,
    Keep in mind that the Cheap i5 does not have HT enabled, so it's limited to 4 threads rather than the 8 you would have, with HT enabled! Then there's the price!

    I know Sam was saying that AMD can't compete with them, but entry level as I posted the other day is right at $400 for MB, CPU and Decent AM3 memory. There seems to be quite a shortage of i5/i7 CPU coolers as well, as Newegg only shows 2 at the moment, both from Cooler Master, so throw in another $20 to $30 for a Cooler and you are looking at over $400 to get in the door! If I was building a new computer, I would spend about $100 more and get a much better Motherboard and cas 7 DDR3-1333 memory. I can't see the point of getting a featureless motherboard and cheap DDR3-1066 memory, just to keep the price down at that point! This would be my build right now!

    http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4558/neweggv.jpg

    $476.27 total, is not bad at all for what you get compared to the lowest entry level here in the US. The cheapest you can build one for ATM is $415.14!

    http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8548/newegg2.jpg

    You get a heck of a lot more for that extra $61! I would even consider one for myself! Might be fun! You could use the $110 Gigabyte MB, and still have something very decent for around $430-$435!

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128405

    It's got lots of bells and whistles, for a $110 motherboard!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    installed win7 64bit RTM.

    i might aswell stay on top of the OS game :p

    hopefully i can get used to this task bar.
     
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    What I meant by agreeing with sam, was that intel has the top dog hands down. I was not talking about AMD's competitive pricing. I don't know about encoding, but i'd sure like to see an intel with extreme number crunching skills, and what it can do otherwise. Basically, i'd like to have the two next to each other (AMD/Intel), to see a side by side comparison for myself. I get the feeling that everyday tasks won't feel any different with the top dog i7 even. I dont know about others...but people who have sat down to both of my AMD computers are wowed and in awe. My Quad machine multitasks like crazy, and the dual core is just plain smooth as a babies bottom! Im not an AMD fanboy really, its simply all i've ever been able to afford. Believe me, I REALLY wanna try an Intel :D
     
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