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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Nope, it's Iobit that's the copycat crap, Auslogics is the reputable one ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/316808/4902697

    You should check DMA first before wasting all those hours fighting that epic way-too-long defrag. And why on earth would you optimize a disk full of crap that hasn't been sorted out first, your logic doesn't compute :)

    /goes back to linux machine where defragging is a non-requirement :p
     
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    As I said, I was just having a look. Simply curiosity. That computer is soo toast that it's not even funny. When he disconnected the optical drive while it was running, it really did a number on it...

    I did leave auslogics on my Secondary though. In my opinion, both do the job well enough. I'm not too worried about which one is on my computer ;)

    Defraggmenting isn't required on linux? Thats interesting.
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Did you tell him that IDE devices removed from a running machine would make the PC an unhappy bunny ?...they'e not hotswappable..

    Proper filesystems my dear Watson. And that's just the ext3 filesystem, i don't use any of the new fangled ones. Same with the Unix systems i used at work, whether it's local attached, NAS, SAN etc, proper filesystems that don't require defragging. It's a Microsoft thing, ie inefficient.
     
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    LOL! He WON'T make that mistake again :D

    Wow creaky. Thanks for the link. I'm rather disgusted about the iobit thieves! You've changed my silly ways ;)

    I'm really gonna have to give linux some attention one of these days ;)
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    No problem, i posted it ages ago, you must have forgotten.
    I'm off back to the land of nod, it's way too early to be on the PC :p
     
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    Just curious do you use the "Move files to the beginning of the disk" and "Defrag and Optimize" options when you run Auslogics? I use both but I personally haven't found much difference. On every PC other than my main gaming rig I tend to just use Defraggler due to its speed. The only thing Auslogics has made a major difference in is playing Oblivion. In order to apply certain mods you need to uncompress the game data files and there are a LOT of files. More than the rest of the PC combined I'd wager. When running a defrag it spends about 50% of its time just defragging my Oblivion folder.

    I gotta say though that after uncompressing the files and doing a complete defrag and optimize my hitching in Oblivion has all but disappeared. This is of course with some custom tweaking done by myself as well, especially memory usage and multi-threading tweaks :p
     
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    If they're not enabled by default then no, but I must admit, I have been wondering why the file moving has been so slight with AusLogics, I will have to test that and see if I get better results.
     
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    Nor me, i don't bother, too many PC's, it takes enough time stopping any of them becoming neglected or out of date with program updates.
     
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    Hey Russ Y not use the TuneUp Utilities Tool?
     
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    Hey russ, actually I found Iobits defragger quicker, but I would rather use the slower auslogics. I don't like the fact that Iobit stole from auslogics to accomplish it! That's like somebody telling another that THEY invented the atom bomb. Everybody knows that I did it first! LOL!
     
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    Yeah that IObit article is an eye-opener, but 99% of us use Microsoft which has stolen from the smaller guys to make their Windozez and Xborks
    and out of that 99%, 98% of us have downloaded goods which the original content creator would like some money from your use.
    I guess I'm saying i can agree on the merits of good program vs. bad but when we start talking about about using someone elses intellectual property in the digital age then we all need to find a line somewhere because the lines are easily blurred.
    If its Ok for me to download an .avi of my favorite bollywood porn why cant IObit use a database? What I find funny is that MBAM itself fixes 90% of spyware in machines i fix. Get paid pretty well to press 3 buttons on a free program and walk away. THE PEOPLE THAT CLEAN UP AFTER HACKERZ GOT HACKED.
     
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    Will,
    Too slow! It's slower than the one in XP!

    Russ
     
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    I tryed.lol,well...I think. I found a home for my I45.I like the living room and the rear panel for heatsink quick release.Painted up a fresh new color inside and be done:)

    New Home


    O changes of plans better go with the double wide instead and low clearance under brigdes...Lol

    Double Wide
     
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    Dang. With all the ram I have, I don't have a measly Gig of DDR 266(PC 2100). I was hoping I had some simply laying around. Newegg costs 34+ dollars for 2 sticks of 512Mb. I think it takes 2gb max. Which if true, may be one of the first consumer boards to support it. I could be mistaken on that :p But I know somewhere in my bios, it said 2gb max! It could have been a memory tester that reported that... I suppose its pretty outdated though. 70$ is a lot to put in a 2001 Asus board. For an extremely minor performance gain. This is even more outdated than the Dell i've been speaking of. Perhaps ebay can come to my rescue...

    LOL! I just remembered my sister has the 1Gb that use to be in this computer. If she upgrades, I get my ram back! :D

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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    But do you need extra RAM, i have one machine with 256MB, one has 384MB, another has 512MB. In fact my Solaris machine only has 192MB.
    None of them are short of memory... :p
     
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    I wouldn't call it extra. When I was employing that pc, 1Gb was a considerable gain over 512Mb. At the time anyway. Now the pc won't be doing much more than web browsing, media files, etc. Not a whole lot of multitasking. But it did do that fairly well :p 2Gb (I imagine) would be overkill though. Running windows anyway. Linux probably doesn't require much in the Ram department as windows does.
     
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    34$ for 1GB of low end RAM :O I paid less the 3 times that amount for 2x2GB PC8500 Dominator series more then a year ago lol.

    Using linux makes wish I spent less on RAM as I hardly ever use more then a fourth of it XD
     
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    Haha I got my Mushkin XP Ascent RAM for $85 about a year ago as well. And it was the super expensive stuff!! RAM prices have taken a huge leap lately.
     
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