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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. Mort81

    Mort81 Senior member

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    it was the latest official bios (and still is) at the time I changed out my E3110 for my Q9450. I justed wanted to have the latest and greatest. bugs are fairly rare with new bios's. they're usually beneficial. this one just slipped through the cracks. like I said there is no problem whatsoever with LLC disabled or on auto.
     
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    Fair enough. Can't say much about BIOSes as Gigabyte's system doesn't really work properly, that's my one biggest criticism of the company as a whole. Fortunately my board works off the bat with the F1 BIOS, else every time my PC crashed (which isn't often, but would be if I was testing out a new overclock) I'd have to reflash the BIOS, as every time the system resets the BIOS settings, it also reverts back to F1.
    Then again I suppose that's a good safety feature if you get a dodgy BIOS version or a failed flash.
     
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    Some of the bios' and boards out there predate 45NM processors and the manufacturers have to work out the bugs.
     
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    Mort81 Senior member

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    very good point. the problem I have with LLC enabled only effects those using a 45nm cpu.
     
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    hence my problem with my board and my 45nm E8400.... they have a F12 bios beta, but they also have been working on it for a year now...
     
  6. rick5446

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    abuzar1.. Did U install the full blown Vista, or the mini Vista. The mini Vista is a stripped Down ver less then 700mbs, everywhere I go on the Net,its been getting great revues, less mem resources,faster, more reliable. I know 700mbs is a lot smaller then its predecessor, what is it normally ? 1.5gig ? Sure hope U keep us posted on your new Vista, I'm like U, my next build I'm going byte the bullet and install the mini Vista. Mainly to start getting used too it, eventually thats what going to be. We're all going to have to get over XP EVENTUALLY. To be perfectly honest I never really cared for XP, but it became a
    necessity !
     
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    abuzar1 Senior member

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    I got Vista 64 bit ultimate version. It's the retail but it has SP1 integrated.
     
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    abuzar1,
    If you have to run that fan anywhere's near full speed, something is not right with your cooler! Good Lord, that's a 110cfm fan at full speed! At 1300 rpm it's quiet and still moves almost 70cfm! That tells me you should send back the cooler!

    Russ
     
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    russ

    He's still waiting for a mounting screw to install the heat sink properly. I've never used the Tuniq but I hear that it's pretty good. It does however sound like he needs a new fan and he should probably order it before Sam hears about this. It would kill him!!

     
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    Heh, I knew about it long ago, and told him, but hey. Some people just don't listen... :p

    Still, it is a shame to see a cooler of that caliber underperform as usually they seem excellent.
     
  11. abuzar1

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    Russ, I don't need to run it at full speed, I just dont feel like installing the fan controller at the moment. When I get the new screws and re-install everything I will install the fan controller as well. I actually have a high tolerance for noise so I wont have to turn it down so much. In fact even at full speed I could live with it if I had to. I wouldn't actually change the fan even if I COULDNT turn it down, and I can haha.

    Hell, the core temps at regular usage dont get over 45C with NO FAN AT ALL. It's a pretty good cooler, it's just not installed correctly. I have full faith that it will be quite excellent once everything is setup properly :)
     
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    Just goes to show how good your case ventilation is. Whilst I have no problems running my CPU fan at 600rpm, remove it completely and with case fans at the low speed I use, core temps at idle are in the sixties.
     
  13. abuzar1

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    lol

    And I had disabled ALL my fans except for my front fan(That logysis red fan that you said would be awfully loud... it wasn't. lol) and the stock cooler master fan in the read.

    When everything is working I have that front and back fans. THe front is intake and rear is exhaust. I also have a top fan intake that blows cool air right in front of the Tuniq tower so it gets fresh air. I also have an exhaust on the side panel to take away the heat from the 4850(which IDLES at 75C!!!!) because it's a single slot.
     
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    75C is lower than most sites report, it's typically 81-82C. It's because the 4850 unlike previous cards doesn't throttle down at idle, it carries on running at full pelt, using as much power as an 8600 at full tilt, hence why it gets so hot.

    As for the noise, noise is relative. In the eyes of most the stock fan on the HD3870 is quiet, but it bugged me.


    Also, don't forget my CPU is reasonably overvolted. If you're still running stock, your heat output may not be as high.
     
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    Thats true. Plus I have the power saving on the Asus board enabled as well. Still, I think once I get everything working it will be AWESOME!!! lol
     
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    what abotu the normal TT fan? wheres that?
     
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    I dont have it.
     
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    Sophocles,
    If he can't cool it better than that with an FM-121, either the cooler isn't mounted correctly or the cooler is bad! The Silverstone FM-121 is one of the highest cfm fans available. He should have no problems running between 700 and 1000 rpm cooling it!
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999344

    Russ
     
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    Hmm! I must be missing something, I thought that he was complaining about the noise?

    He does need another screw to seat his heat sink properly. In my view he should go to the Hardware store and replace the entire lot. He says that the system works passively which would suggest that fan speed or high CFM isn't necessarily what's needed.

    Look at the noise level (close your ears and shut your eyes sam) of the silverstone "17-39.5 dBA, and then the noise of other fans,"9 dBA, and 12.8 dBA." Propellers should only be used on planes, and boats. You know how they sound?
     
  20. abuzar1

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    Haha, well it's bolt through. I haven't seen any complaints about screwing a cooler in. I hear this is the best method.

    It's not push pin or anything like that.
     
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