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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Believe it or not I used to have four Red LED Antec Tricools on the side of my 932. It was pretty good, but the tricools are ultimately quite cheap fans and the bearings started to get noisy quite quick and annoyed me.
     
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    LOL.. Sammy you is a funny SOB!! :D
     
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    I should know, I owned them :p
    On the whole, four 120mm fans looks far more messy, but is far more effective.
     
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    i have all 5 of my antec tricools running on medium right now and have been for a year or so and cant hear them the only fan i can here is the one on my OCZ Vendetta 2 (120mm) maybe i should put a tricool on it..lol

    hell the very first tricool i got was about 2 years ago a little green elf sent it to me. it is in the front of my 690 right now blowin cool are on these hdd's..
     
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    I'm sure they are.. I don't see needing such devices unless ye is gonna push your rig to the brink.. then it's time to think about water cooling or keeping your computer room at about 50F.. ROFL. :p

    My biggest 'curiosity' is what kind of dust is that BIG BUGGER gonna attract?? ;)
     
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    It does attract a bit of dust. At least the 932 does.

    Rob, looks like christmas morning there :) Next week for me :D SSD may be the big one! Definitely gonna need to do some comparative shopping ;) While intel may be the best SSD, is it really worth the money they're asking? Could I get away with something substantially cheaper, while still impress the socks off me LOL!
     
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    yes another WD1001FALS.

    for the price of a ssd you could get 2 FALS drives and have about 22x the space available compared to a ssd. way to much for so little in return. plus if you dont have the mobo for the ssd to set into properly isnt it a waist to use a sata cable???? your still only gonna get the 3.0 transfer rate from said sata cable.????
     
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    SSDs can't outrun S-ATA yet. The fastest SSDs can only read at 250MB/s, S-ATA2 offers up to 375MB/s.
     
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    Well then they could outrun it. Raid on Sata 6Gb/s controllers :D
     
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    But RAID uses more than one S-ATA port, so the bandwidth is multiplied...
     
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    My new board will have 2 ports. 2 in say raid 0 would theoretically double the speed. Is this not right? Sounds like 1 + 1 to me LOL.
     
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    Forgive me. What I mean is, with the right configuration, SSD's can take full advantage of even Sata 6Gb/s.
     
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    Yes, RAID0 can double the (sequential) data rate. However, it's still not outrunning the interface, as you're using two drives, thus, there is two drives' worth of bandwidth available. Even if you achieve 400MB/s, faster than one S-ATA bandwidth, you have two cables, so there's 750MB/s available anyway.
     
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    So if a board had say 6 sata 6gb/s ports, and you had 6 intel ssd's ran in Raid 0, it wouldn't tap that potential?
     
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    You will never exceed the S-ATA specification because there will be as many cables as there are drives. If 6 drives are faster, then so will be one. In practice, however, there is a limitation due to the speed of the controller and the amount of PCI express bandwidth available.
     
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    Im trying to comprehend your explanation. Bare with me. The way I see it, Mb/s and Bandwidth mean the same thing, they're simply different words. So when you say bandwidth is multiplied, 6 intel ssd's operating at 250+ Mb/s each, that would equal ~1500Mb/s of total bandwidth. Would the new revision be able to withstand that? If so, then I'm completely confused :S
    Sorry in advance LOL!
     
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    Ugh, it can't really explained, it's just common sense.
    S-ATA bandwidth applies per cable.
    If you have 6 drives, you get 6 times the bandwidth available.
     
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    Oh, ok. Than its infinite :p

    It's not my intention to upset you sam. I'm not that type of person.
     
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    Pros: Small, quiet, runs cool. The modular cabling is incredibly nice and makes wire management in my case a breeze. I had it recommended to me to buy the best powersupply I could afford for my new build and I cannot be more pleased with this one. Runs a GA-P55-UD3L, intel i5 overclocked to 3.0 GHZ and a eVGA GeForce 9800 GT 1 GB, and two hardrives with ease. I could easily run more powerful graphics cards in an SLi setup if my motherboard would allow it.

    Cons: Motherboard power cables could be slightly longer(to accommodate my case: HAF 922) although I made it work. It also looks anemic in my case, but again that is my fault for wanting such a big case

    Other Thoughts: You want to buy the best power supply you can afford if you are thinking about building a new machine. Even though this supply is overkill for my setup I am glad to have it and feel secure that I don't have to worry about it failing on me


    thats a review for the CM silent pro 700w. guess i need to look closely at the HX650 and see what it says along these lines.

    and here is a good view for me..lol
    this is for the HX650W

    Pros: quiet, powerful, modular, reliable, well built, nice design

    worked fine in my Cosmos S with 780i, modular cables makes it great since i've watercooled the board and cpu. voltages are basically dead on under load.

    Cons: price... but then again its probably the best teir 2 brand their is right now... so youre buying good stuff
     
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