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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. abuzar1

    abuzar1 Senior member

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    Well, ACTUALLY I only use my computer to surf the web, torrent, make AVIs into DVDs and occasionally game when I feel like it.

    Lol My PC is soooo overkill.
     
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    RAID0 harms access times for files, it only helps for large file transfers. If you want responsiveness for applications, get a lower access time drive, like a 10k or an SSD.
     
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    Well, like I said, I would LIKE one. It's not like I'm getting one! lolol

    You guys still don't understand how I am like. Here it is in a nutshell: CHEAP

    lol If I say I want something, chances are I WONT get it. haha
     
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    Sophocles,
    Every 120mm I've tried to date has exhibited the same characteristics!
    That be us! LOL!! And Shame on me Too! LMSAO! I like that, "Hypothetical Situation"!
    What I would do in that situation is "Stylize" the wires into a sort of "Pop Art". Bend all the Sata cables so they're all on the same plain, with the other wires laid as neat as possible. In window cases, I've used different color Sata cables. Makes a pretty neat view!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    Sam

    RAID is "Redundant Array of Independent Disks".

    RAID O is not a true RAID, but it has been defined as such. It splits data across two or more disks working in tandem as though they were one. Usually RAID is a copied or active cloned backup of another disk running parallel to each other, but it's not always that simple there are combination's of RAID that include for both performance and backup.
     
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    That's what he is saying. He would not use RAID0 for redundancy, because if one HDD fails, the other one is useless.
     
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    This is what I was responding too!

    "Internet servers require redundancy" Very true. "RAID O is the last thing I'd use." Say what? The two things have little in common other than more than one disk. One is for a cloned backup and the other is for performance. The statement implies that redundancy for servers somehow is a reason not to use RAID O for performance?



     
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    I think you mis-understood him.

    He was saying if I intended to use it as an Internet Server Raid0 was a bad idea.
     
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    lol. raid0 fights hehe.

    anyone else doing builds soon? im planning one in september for about 1k. :)
     
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    Abuzar

    His intent wasn't clearly stated or written into his use of language! Don't you think that a consideration of you doing a budget build as an Internet server in RAID O as a possible backup is a bit of a stretch?
     
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    Mine is NOT QUITE done yet.

    I might do another one by the end of October. This one is for a customer, but he has a MAX budget of 6 grand hehe.
     
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    Russ

    RAID has always stood for a "Redundant Array of Independent Discs." The Wikipedia definition is wrong.
     
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    Basically you said that I might have an Internet server and I also mentioned RAID0. There was no other kind mentioned. He said that Raid0 for Internet Server is a bad idea.

    IDK, I got the message. Let's not argue about this lol.
     
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    soph how comes everything is always against sam?

    anyways ATM, (things change for sept) this is my build:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I never implied anything even close to that, but if you can show me the quote I will read it.

    Agreed! So when did the use of an Internet server come into play as even an option?

    I wasn't debating any of those points, but I have used and will use RAIDO as a performance option. It won't do a darned thing for back up, that is unless I clone my drive for that purpose.
     
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    I'm not against Sam, I like Sam, but sometimes he exceeds his experience with conjecture based on tidbits picked up on the web. That alone is not a problem, but when he uses it for debate, he isolates some of us who knows the difference. I've known Sam for years and I've always liked him. I like him now and hope that he knows that.
     
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    There. You quoted him about Raid0 and in the same post said that it's needed for "Why not! It's needed for some purpose such as large file transfers, audio or video recording and encoding, or as an Internet server, and I suppose he would need them for one of those?"

    Shaf, you mind fixing that picture? There is a lot of empty white space you can delete out. I have a widescreen laptop and it still screws up my borders. Plus scrolling sideways is a pain with this thing :)
     
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    The only redundancy in your quote is the redundant question that you posted.

    I didn't see a point in comparing your choice to run a RAID 0 to that of redundancy as a back up. They are two 180 degree concepts.
     
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    Change of heart eh?
     
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