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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Rick,
    You know, for all the dribble I ever heard about "DeathStars", it occurs to me in all the hundreds of HDDs I've replaced over the last 20 years, I can't recall replacing a single Hitachi. I swapped an Hitachi 250GB Sata 3.0 for a 250GB Seagate because the guy was having compatibility problems (Sata 1.5GB/s) with the drive, and the Hitachi worked fine. When I had it in mine I made the mistake of making it the boot drive. It's a bit on the slow and noisy side for that, but as a storage drive, it worked fine and was certainly quiet enough. I got the better end of the deal though, the Seagate is a newer and better drive!

    Russ
     
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    I don't hear much of them these days because I don't know anybody that buys them. I do remember them being exceptionally noisy, which of course is automatically a reason for me not to buy one. As for the failures, if I remember rightly, there was a huge wave of failures in the past, sufficiently many for them to become a liability. The new drives might be better, they might not be, but neither myself or most of the people I know are willing to risk data to test that fact.
     
  3. rick5446

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    theonejrs : How long ago was that Russ. About 3 yrs ago I had 3 Deckstar 2-125s, 1-250, they all went tits-up in about a yr & day almost one right after the other within a month
    I know at the time I bought they were the least expensive
    But I've stayed clear of them since that experience. I'm not saying that at one time they might have been good, or that by now they might have improved. At the time a lot of people were having problems with these HDD. So I've just stayed clear
    Way back B4 Pentium, I bought Maxtor, they were low man on the totem pole price wise. I liked them cause they had a distinct click in them,U could tell they were working [ I HATE COMPLETE SILENCE ] and very reliable
    Just sayin, that the bad experience I had keeps me away from them. I'm sure U can relate to this, AS I'm sure U stay away from SPECIFICS. Being the STUBBORN Old FART that UR...OOPS THE FART WAS A SLIP...Just my opinion
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    Maxtor are probably the next manufacturer on the list for low reliability behind Hitachi, so that should put the argument into perspective.
     
  5. rick5446

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    Just this one time listen to sammorris, he's younger and has a better Memory . Maybe when all that crap was going on about the HDDs, U weren't interested in them or maybe U WERE uncompassionated and can't remember...I know at my age short term memory is a be-atch
     
  6. sammorris

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    LOL, whether that's true or not, I also had less experience back when that was occurring. While I'm hardly going to refute praise, I think that's overblowing it just a little bit :p
     
  7. rick5446

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    I got a little repore with Russ, So I'm pretty sure he'll get a chuckle out of it. I'm just tryin to put a smile on
    HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN UP TO snuff my self of late. But then the older ya get all ya get is 16 tons and another day older and deeper in debt
     
  8. Red_Maw

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    My Maxtor Quantum Fireball (IDE) had been running like a champ for more years then I can remember until it got retired recently in favor of a larger, faster hdd ;) Wouldn't buy a Maxtor Quantum drive now, but have to admit it's one the best hdd's I've ever owned lol.
     
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    You win some, and you lose some. I've bought one seagate drive, and it began to fail in under a week. I've bought more western digitals than I can remember, and only 2 have completely failed. Never seen a samsung in person, I've seen a couple maxtors, and was not impressed LOL! Both were rather noisy.

    I can't wait til SSD's are more mainstream, and reliable. I want one badly. I almost had one, but financial situations caught up with me :p Perhaps by the next tax return, there will be a very reliable drive out, and somewhat affordable ;)
     
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    The Maxtor Fireball was a rebrand of the Quantum Fireball, it was a Quantum product, not a Maxtor design.
     
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    LOL! My buddy has one of those drives. I recall laughing at the name ROFL! His computer is pretty old too. A 1999 if memory serves. That's a pretty old friggin drive! I think it has an 800Mhz intel processor(His computer that is). Not sure which model though.
     
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    Guess I need to update my post, no credit for maxtor lol.
     
  13. rick5446

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    I've got 2 Samsung 500gig very pleased with them..Not too sure of the larger ones though. What blogs I've read the larger ones have a tendency too fail. So pretty much stay with these for larger drives
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

    I take that back, I think I've got an Iomega that is a Samsung 1gig payed 79.00 for it. It was supposed to be a WD, But didn't realize till later, had a couple of mishaps with Iomega [Housing failure not drives] Iomega Techs were great though. They let me take out the HDD to recover my data B4 sending it back. If I'd have realized the new drive was a Samsung, I'd have kept the old one which was a WD
    But so far so good, only time will tell
     
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    Glad you have that figured rick. The WD1001FALS is more than likely the best 1Tb drive on the market. Figuring for price, performance, and reliability, it can't be beat! I love all 3 of mine :D
     
  15. sammorris

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    Omega: Probably a P3 Coppermine.
    Rick: HD501LJ? Probably the best drive Samsung made. Quality went sharply downhill after that one, starting with the F1 series. Supposedly better now, but I'm still a little wary. I do own an HD753LJ myself, but the 1TB ones were horrors.
    The WD1001FALS drives seem tremendous though, almost Seagate-like with the racket they make, but they seem to be pretty solid and quite fast. The WD1002FAEX is the new performance champ, but for the price, simply isn't worth it just yet.
     
  16. bigwill68

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    I Would say so for $158 bucks should real quit for that price
    http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/136460/HDD_INTERNAL_SATA-II_DRIVES/Western_Digital/WD1002FAEX.asp

    What's Ya'll Boys think about these 2 boards here to Unlock the 3 and 4th core? and what's the Big Different between the two just the USB3 for $10 more
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...mpareItemList=N82E16813131633,N82E16813131631
     
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    Yeah, the extra $10 is for the USB3 support it seems.
     
  18. ChrisC586

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    Now Bigwill68 my choice would be the Biostar for $119.00 since I've become a fan boy of them.my 7750 unlocked to 4 cores along with the 550 on the 790 boards.the 890 is the new board for the 965. The 955 ended up on the TA790Gx max i could get out of that stable with decent temps and voltage was 3.9 ended up running it at 3.6. on stock cooler.
     
  19. theonejrs

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    Chris,
    You were very lucky. My 790X GigaByte would unlock both cores on my x2 7750, but neither of them were any good, not even at stock speeds! It wouldn't boot!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    Tried to install a OS on the i3 build and the system temp is getting way to hot causing it to shut down. Checking temps in the bios tells me the cpu is just under 30C and the system temp is 36C. Not a clue what I can do about this except return the MB, there's no reason for it run that hot.

    Edit: the heatsink on the MB doesn't feel that hot when it shuts down, although I don't think it's the cpu because of the readings from the bios. Going to reseat the HSF and try a dedicated gpu tomorrow (later today) and see if that helps.
     
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