The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Nice boxes Oman7.... I guess the PSU isn't worthy of a pic... hehehee.

 

Actually, I plan on comparing the Two PSU's when I pull the 550 Though newegg may just list the dimensions

Hmmm, they don't list the dimensions of the 550. Not that we should trust them 100% anyway LOL! It's certainly best to compare information with other sites

 

AFAIK most PSUs follow the standard ATX 2.0 size limits. Micro ATX PSUs will be generally of the same dimensions but shorter in depth. Larger PSUs will follow the same standard as well but be longer in depth. The overall dimensions I would assume to be very similar. The figure you want is specifically the length... though I didn't think the 750 was one of the larger ones. My 620HX is certainly standard size.

Example: My 620HX, 550VX, and OCZ SXS600 are all basically the same exact size. The 620 may be slightly longer than the 550 and 600 though, have't checked lately

Wish I hadn't sold my StealthXStream that was a DAMN good PSU for $84. Can't say the same about other OCZs. The 600W StealthXStream had the same internals as the 700W GameXStream, minus modularity which made it better electrically. These internals in a 600W PSU meant it was nearly bullet proof.

Oh yeah, lol it shut down at 730W too. I bet the next PSU I get won't overspec as far as that ;P

 

LOL.. I have the VX-550... it's a nice little PSU I must say.

 

Agreed I love my 550VX. Currently one of the better deals in Corsair's lineup.

GM, Read my edit on my last post. The 600W OCZ StealthXStream was underspecced by the MFG. Sam might think I sound like a broken record as he's heard it from me before, but I thought it was a very interesting PSU. Not very common that a bare budget PSU like that has solid internals AND is underspecced.

 

I like the 550 as well. Unfortunately, it doesn't have enough PROPER sata connections. That is the main reason for my buying the 750. As well as future Sli/Crossfire.

I'm aware of ATX PSU standards. Its a good thing for such standards I guess I should have specified lengths. At first glance, I would certainly wager that the 750 is the same size as the 550. Though it weighs more. I guess I'll know for certain when I remove the 550, and put it in my secondary, and be done with the OCZ for good. I might just sell it. It seems to be working fine. I just wonder about its longevity is all.

I would probably sell it very cheap. If ANYONE is interested drop me a pm. OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W

LOL! Jeff, I've heard it before too. Perhaps you ARE a broken record Totally funnin with ya.

 

Yeah I know but that's something I consider very important when looking at PSUs. OCZs in general maybe somewhat unreliable and underpowered, but the 600W SXS is a diamond in the rough. It has just the right mixture of internals and the right price to make it very worthy of consideration. Maybe not material for OUR particular builds, but it's an excellent value for anyone on a prohibitive budget

 

Something I love about Rockford Fosgate Amplifers is that they underrate their amplifers. I love it when Manufacturers do that. Unfortunately, there are manufacturers that round up, instead of rounding down If a power supply is only capable of 485W, please state that. Do not say its peak power is 500W. That's misleading, a lie, and complete BS!

My dad has ran forklifts most his life. They have a maximum weight limit. I forget what it is, but he has surpassed it on several occasions. Cars that say maximum capacity 1200 pounds, are probably being bashful, and can handle at least 1500

Ok, I'll shut up now LOL!

 

Haha never thought of doing it before and I'm shocked. Just buddied you Omega Added you as well greensman

Likewise. The same can be said for most Corsair PSUs. My 620HX shuts down at 750W and my 550VX shuts down at 660~ish. I'm not sure of the model of load bank used but it's the same one that Silent PC Review uses so I'm fairly sure those numbers are accurate. Of course it's not a dynamic load environment with all the heat like a PC case, but it does find the theoretical max of a PSU pretty well.

Funnily enough it actually doesn't damage them at all and they don't overheat as the fan doesn't ramp up until they near max rated load. It seems an internal switch is tripped long before any danger. So I'm sure they can do a bit higher but just goes to show the product itself is capable of much more than written on the box and is configured from the factory to be able to do it. Underspeccing your product is an excellent way to ensure they perform correctly no matter what. Props to Corsair for that small amount of comfort

I feel the same way. I have no problems whatsoever with a product being rated lower if its performance can match its specs. Case in point, a 400W PSU being rated at 500W. If people test it and it can't do 500, they label it as a bad product. It might be the best quality 400W available but if it can't match it's rating, it will get a bad reputation. Overrating their PSUs probably sells them more quickly, but in the long run it will hurt the company's reputation.

One thing that makes me sick is the vast amount of misinformation being thrown around the computer enthusiast community. That and the people who know nothing BUT misinformation and will argue to the death to defend a point you can disprove with a simple benchmark. Case in point: my last "argument" on Youtube with a guy claiming his 9800GTX could run Crysis maxed at 32FPS at 1600 x 900. No it can't I have owned a 9800GTX+ AMP! Edition which was one of the highest clocked versions available. At 1600 x 900 maxed it ran 22-24FPS in the best parts. Of course he says I'm full of crap, lying, and being a jerk saying his system is crap. I'm like "No, I didn;t say any of that nor did I attack your system. You simply posted a very blatant and badly concocted lie and I just disproved it with FACTS. Facts aren't subjective, they are FACTS."

 

Jeff: The smell was quite distinctive and was used in the plastic frame of the CRT monitor I got with my first PC, and slightly in the keyboard too. It was relatively pungent, i.e. you could smell it simply whilst using the PC. Can't really describe it, been so long ago now
Omega: The box for the 750 looks identically sized to the box my HX 1000W came in. As far as length goes, the Zalmans are among the longest PSUs. The ZM850-HP and ZM1000-HP are 21cm long, versus the 18cm of the 750W HX.
1300W PSUs aren't designed for servers, servers use very little power. 1300W PSUs are designed for either ridiculous overkill for gaming PCs, or for folding rigs (the sort of PCs that contain four GTX295s)
Jeff: 730W a.c. in or 730W DC out? If it's DC out that's very impressive, though I won't read much into it unless all the rails were correctly loaded.
What you're seeing when PSUs shut down is overload protection. It's something used in any quality PSU. Not included in any cheapo PSU, needless to say.
We don't talk about youtube. It's full of trolls, absolutely full of them. I've seen people max Crysis at 1920x1080 on an 8400GS.

 

Sorry. I should have clarified. When I was imagining a server, I was imagining a server with more hard drives then I'll ever own LOL! I realize hard drives don't require that much power though. Hence why I said:
"Although Quad SLI/Crossfire would probably benefit from a beafy PSU Depending on the GPU's power requirement of course..." E.g. a power hungry 295

 

You don't get servers like that. Even if you did, it would take more than 50 hard drives to require more power than an 850W PSU can provide.

 

DC out specifically. I had it tested twice. It went slightly higher the second time

And yes I'm fairly sure the guy knows what he's doing. Increasing levels of load on all rails approaching max theoretical. As well as measuring ripple which was well within spec on all rails Not entirely sure about his actual methods, but he handles the machine masterfully/with great familiarity and let me watch the whole test.

Like I'm saying, 700W internals

Sounds similar to the smell from a freshly built PC with all new everything. The whole room will stink like it for weeks. I love it

I know but I like to troll back. Plus it's really gratifying when someone actually listens and has an intelligent conversation, then friends you(multiple occasions)

 

Well got my Samsung 2 Terabyte HDD
Been running it Vigorously for 2 days none stop, right beside my 1T WD which I might say is working just as hard
Don't know the temps,but the Samsung is actually staying COOL to the touch against the WD which is warm
Now when I say cool, I mean room temp cool, NOT A HINT of Warmth
So far very impressed, only time will TELL

 

Sam,
Mine is inexpensive ($39 on sale), but it has overload protection! It doesn't have all the Bells and Whistles, like active PFC, but it's been a solid PSU for over a year now.

Russ

 

Note my wording, I said not included in cheapo, not cheap. There's a difference

 

looking for this joker here for a friend for a old ga-81915P Duo Pro
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7RR

there's 2 different 1's and the one I don't want is blow the SL7RR is the better 1 of the 2.I know this cpu probably be hard to find these days in time but luck may have it iout there somewhere.lol
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL7GD

 

Totally agreed. Just because a product is cheap doesn't make it cheaply made. I have used countless Antec EA380s and they are now my favorite all time PSU for building. Low price, of obvious quality, and powers any average system. Just got one for my old school HTPC build though I might sell it...

 

Off topic, did any of you guys ever have a drive like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPoawKOHjQ4

HDDs sound very boring today by comparison, the noise this thing makes is amazing. Forget the volume, there's no doubt stuff is happening here!

 

YES I have two of them. One I'm fairly sure is the model in that video and one is a Maxtor.

The Seagate ST-251(like the video) is a 25MB and the Maxtor is a 52MB.

http://www.4drives.com/4drives/ST251.htm

You can find them new here. Amazing they are worth that much. Wonder what kind of machine you'd have to make you pay that much. AFAIK it's almost a museum piece...

The Seagate one I have is the ST-251N SCSI from a very old server with a 486DX in it.