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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Yes exactly, it's effectively 60mpg due to the cost savings, but it's really more like 30. LPG conversion actually decreases an engine's performance overall, but the fuel produces lower emissions and costs a lot less (at the moment).
     
  2. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    It's basically approx 20% less performance due to expansion ie it's a gas :). 168BHP for a 2 ton tank is pretty zippy for me regardless of the 20% loss. But the end result is that you in effect get 50/60MPG overall due to cost savings.

    But i won't derail any further, as there's so many people visiting the thread for help on builds in this wonderful economy of ours, i was just shocked at those RAM prices :)
     
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  3. Red_Maw

    Red_Maw Regular member

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    Having run my i7 930 at 3.9Ghz with ram at both ~1333Mhz and 1568Mhz I can say there is definitely a difference. Not a huge one but it's worth the extra money imo.
     
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    any numbers? or jsut a snappier feel?
     
  5. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Here's something for all, I got from Noctua. it seems they do have a cure for mounting the NH-U9B SE2, pointed in the right direction on an AMD. I emailed Noctua yesterday. I got this response this morning.


    Thanks for contacting Noctua and for your interest in our products.

    The NH-U9B SE2 can be installed in one direction only with the included parts, that's correct. We do, however, offer a free upgrade when needed which allows rotation of the cooler on AMD mainboards too.
    For further informations please take a look at the NM-A90 product page here:
    http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=36&lng=en

    Best regards,
    Andreas Karner
    Noctua support team

    It don't get much better than that, and it's free too! Proof of purchase for the cooler and motherboard required!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  6. Red_Maw

    Red_Maw Regular member

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    It should be safe to say a couple Gflops faster according to linpack (whatever that's worth) but I never wrote down any numbers so I can't be exactly sure what belongs to what.

    Now that's what I call customer service.
     
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    Hope you post this on the AMD thread?

    TIA
     
  8. Red_Maw

    Red_Maw Regular member

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    I might be in the market for a very cheap and quiet PSU, any suggestions? The 400w corsair for 40$ looks good but something even cheaper would be better ;)

    Hey creaky, do you know how well wireless usb network adapters work with linux? Was thinking of getting one of these but it doesn't look like they are plug and play.

    TIA,

    redmaw
     
  9. Estuansis

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    Antec EarthWatts 380W. Ask Sam he'll say the same.
     
  10. omegaman7

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    I don't think you can do much better than the 400W corsair. Cheaper??? Man...if you want reliability, you wanna spend a decent amount of money. Most PSU's under 40$ probably ain't worth the paint they used...

    Just my 2cents ;)

    I have in my vicinity, 2 400W corsairs. They perform flawlessly. One is even hooked up to a Quad core Propus. Which isn't too power hungry :p

    Ahh! The antec also looks good ;)
     
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    The heck with Sammy.. it's good. LOL. :p
     
  12. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Red_Maw,
    You can't go wrong with one of these Cooler masters.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

    Sam just said the other day that he thought it was a better deal than the OCZ Gamestar 700w I bought from Oman7. I use them all the time for customer builds. It and the 460 both. I've sold about 35 of them this past year. Not one DOA, or warranty problem. Mine's been in my computer for over a year now, and the voltages are stable, and it runs nice and quiet. Just a good, basic. solid PSU. And a two year warranty, at that price, is pretty good!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    theonejrs Senior member

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    Creaky,
    I think that eventually all Fuels will be sold by the BTU content, which means that LPG should always be cheaper than unleaded. It's also "Greener" than unleaded, so I think that when that time comes there will be all sorts of incentives to using LPG! Just my two cents worth!

    Russ
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    I've had a look and i found a link (that handily links back to the NewEgg item) ~
    http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1985308 it seems there are 2 versions of the WUSB100 ie 2 different chipsets, this rarely matters in Windows but in linux it's (sometimes) very important so i'm glad you asked before buying it.

    Snippet from that link ~
    ..that looks reassuring.

    I see the adapter also supports WPA2 which is excellent (see my signature, i use WPA/AES across my fleet).

    I've never spent time trying to get my own USB wifi adapters working in linux (2 different types of adapters, Zyxel G-202 and G-260), they worked great in Windows when i used to use them regularly, nor have i spent time researching whether they would work in linux, as i (still) use two types of Belkin PCMCIA cards (RT61 and Broadcom BCMWL5, very well supported across the linux world) across my linux laptops. Plus for other linux PC's i used to swear by the half or dozen or so Linksys WMP54G PCI cards that i have (RT61 and RT2500 chipsets, again very well supported across the linux world).

    But i digress, i guess it boils down to which linux you're wanting to use the adapter with, i'm not familiar with the Ralink RT2770, RT2720 or RT3070 chipsets myself so we'd have to do more googling for the linux distro you're planning to use.
     
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    I might add I'm using a Ralink RT2500 internal card in my laptop and so far Puppy and Ubuntu work fine with it. I'm not sure if the same applies elsewhere but it's worth noting that the laptop is upwards of 6 years old... and it only supports WPA1. But seriously, small home network, simple password so mom can access it. No worries here.
     
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    Thanks for the psu recommendations, I'll probably just get the quietest one since they're all relatively the same price. I probably should have mentioned that it's not going to be powering a system, just some fans and pumps so it won't be under any real load. A good 12v rail would be good for the pump(s) though.

    Thanks creaky, good info. I'll probably pass on that deal since I don't know what distro it's going to be running yet. Was going to put a machine in a different room for a while, but since it's going to hooked to the modem in the fall for use as a IPMASQ server might as well save myself 8$ and just deal with it.

    I've tried a wireless adapter on a couple distro's before and it's really sketchy support, like you said. Even when it does work it usually has few "issues" that generally make it not worth messing with imo. One of the reasons I like to use AP's instead of wireless adapters; more versatile and supported by everything.
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    No problem. I don't know much about any other USB adapters for the reasons i posted above. If you do move the machine at some point, and have a spare PCI slot and they're not too expensive on your side of the pond, the Linksys WMP54G is an excellent card, as i say they're very well supported. Or if it does have to be a USB adapter, post back when you find one and we'll do some searching again. I'm on all one floor here and there was a convenient hole in the one wall where a previous tenant had run a cable for cable tv so i've been able to connect all my routers via wire; but i've had years of stability with routers connected together via wifi too.
    This way all main kit is on wire and i can use laptops and one of the netbooks on wifi and wired, plus with 3 routers i have great coverage for the kids' Nintendo DSes.
     
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  18. theonejrs

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    HOORAY! My 955BE/C3 & Scythe fan arrived! PSU will probably be here tomorrow. I'll wait for the PSU, so I can install everything at the same time. I'm not feeling that well today, anyway. It's not going to kill me to wait another day. UPS says that the PSU will be here tomorrow.

    Stay Tuned,
    Russ
     
  19. greensman

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    That's great Russ... I'm excited for you.. now to get to building mine so we can see how things go. :D
     
  20. Estuansis

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    Best of wishes on your first full Phenom II build Russ! Have fun and happy clocking!

    Don't be afraid of voltage either. If you can keep them cool they'll Go to 1.5 all day.
     
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