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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. shaffaaf

    shaffaaf Regular member

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    while i agree with you russ, creaky said it in public, on the forum, and not im a pm, so sam has a right to comment.
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    Russ, I entirely disagree, not only am I entitled to make a comment since as shaff says, this is in the public forum, but Rick was also, politely or otherwise, asking for a reason why he shouldn't use text speak. I considered it obvious as do the staff it seems, but I felt like offering an explanation in full. All you have done is try and make it look like you're the forum guardian, and that whenever someone gets a warning from a moderator, that it's your responsibility to stop other people from getting involved. Posts like that only incite another page about who should and shouldn't say what, we all know that from past experience. If your aim is for 'let that be that' then posting the message you just did is the worst possible thing you could have done.
     
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    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    knock it off all of you!!
     
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    Jaysas.... what DDP said!! ;)
     
  5. rick5446

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    Good idea We should all knock it off B4 it turns Serious AYE.
    I think I'm just going to un-subscribe to this thread. Until I need ADVICE on Computers
     
  6. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    comnputers! what are computers?
     
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    omegaman7 Senior member

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    Gods gift to men...
     
  8. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    No! That would be Woman! LOL!!

    Take a look at what my little fan mod yielded for temps.

    [​IMG]

    I have the Video card back in the 16x slot, where the motherboard was hitting 53C before, with the Freezer 64 in it. The 70mm fan taken from a new AMD CPU cooler, fits right in between the pump housing and the thumbscrews on the pump mount and blows air down over the entire Northbridge. I didn't even have to attach it with screws, it fits so snug. The pump housing blocks about 1/4 of the back side of the fan, but no noise, and it works great, as you can see. It's 27C ambient in here right now. I can see now, when using a water cooler like this, that local fans might be needed for hot spots like the chipset, inside the case.

    The radiator cooling works great, and the sides and top and bottom tanks of the radiator are cool to the touch so there's no lingering heat inside the case from the radiator at all!

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    omegaman7 Senior member

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    Wonder how my temps would be affected if I switch to the Coolit cooler. My Ram temps would probably increase slightly, since heat is no doubt pulled from them. I imagine its a trivial amount though. I've never felt a hot ram module :p Or a warm one for that matter. The HAF932 does a pretty good job of cooling the overall system. It'll do even better when I go Quad 120mm's on the side!

    No russ. Computers do what I want with no questions asked, no complaining/whining. Besides, there is no woman in this world or the next for me :( My standards are extremely high. For a reason...
     
  10. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Oman7,
    The thing is, I doubt that you would need Quad 120mm fans in the first place using the CoolIt, as the vast majority of the heat goes out the back of the case. My ram is no warmer without the airflow from a conventional CPU cooler, barely luke warm to the touch, and my Ram is 2.1v!

    Russ
     
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    omegaman7 Senior member

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    Ha ha! They wouldn't be for the cpu. More for the GPU, and other components ;)

    As well as simply being more future capable ;) This case ain't going nowhere!
     
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    Here's my latest DVDRB/CCE Encode, after my NorthBridge fan mod.

    I know people who would be happy to be getting these temps at idle with a Phenom II. Here I am getting them doing an Encode! LOL!!

    [​IMG]

    Here's the end result.

    [​IMG]

    It actually runs faster because it runs cooler. It lowered the time by 3 minutes, from the same Encode I did yesterday. Same settings and all, but just cooler! While I can't say for sure that the temps are any better than if I had used the Corsair H50, I have a lot more confidence in the CoolIt. It's very well made and very rugged. Glad I took the "Plunge", so to speak! ROFLMSOAO!! The results speak for themselves.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    omegaman7 Senior member

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    Looks like your movie didn't require much compression. You don't keep extras eh? I get close to that time keeping almost everything ;)

    Your temps are the same as mine, when my room is super cooled by our Air conditioner. Though thats almost uncomfortably cold!
     
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    yeah, coolit sell to corsair, so id expect coolit to be better. Damn you russ, could have told me about it before i bought the h50
     
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    Oman7,
    I rarely keep any of that junk! I want as much picture quality as I can get in the Movie itself. While not huge in terms of compression, it still has to compress the video down from 5.6GB to 4.3GB. I went back and re-did Jurassic Park, which is 7.6GB, and got the same temps, and slightly better time! It still only took 26 minutes!

    Once it starts to get over 80F outside, it's almost impossible to get my room under 80F. I manage about 80-85F in here during the summer months. The house is a typical, Post WWII house, made with the materials available at the time. There is no insulation at all in the outside walls, also very typical for that era of construction.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    Shaff,
    LOL!! I didn't even know the CoolIt existed until just a few weeks ago, or I would have said something sooner. Sorry, wrong place at the wrong time! ROFLMAO!! Had I know just how good it was going to be in real world use, I would have let you know, believe me! To say I'm pleased with the results, would be an understatement!

    Russ
     
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    Not my first candidate for a watercooling user, but glad it's worked out well :p
    I'm off for a week on a field trip, I may/may not be able to post depending on whether internet access works on foreign phone networks, we'll see. If not, talk to you guys in a week :p
     
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    Have a fun trip sam :)

    Russ, is the radiator that comes with the coolit normal? I'm starting to wonder what kind of performance difference you would see if you put shrouds on it with a push/pull fan configuration lol. Probably not worth the added expense, but still fun never the less.
     
  19. theonejrs

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    Sam,
    Oh, I agree on that. It's just a glorified CPU cooler, but for it's intended purpose, it's not difficult to get it working really well. The performance is there, and it shows in the results.

    I would imagine that your cooling would be a bit of a nightmare, with all those High End video cards. You could still greatly improve your overall temps using the CoolIt ECO, in place of your existing CPU cooler. A large portion of the heat in your case comes from the CPU cooler. Fans or no fans, air coolers radiate a lot of heat inside the case. For me, for the same money, I don't think the 92mm 4 pipe Noctua could have done as good a job as the ECO! I know that I would not have been able to keep the Vid card in the 16x slot, and with the lack of room, it would have been almost impossible to rig some cooling for the NB! There's just no room, even for a 40mm fan on my NorthBridge heat sink! Not even with the Freezer 64!

    I guess what the ECO does best, is remove a huge chunk of heat from one place, and transfers it to the back door, so to speak. That area of heat no longer exists, and it amazingly does it without any impact on your case temps. All the Eco's components inside the case remain cool to the touch. The heat get's shoved out the back door courtesy of the two fans on the Rad. Elegantly Simple, and extremely efficient. Their CPU FHE (Fluid Heat Exchanger) Base is a Marvel. It's not polished very well, but it is extremely flat. I couldn't find one flaw in the surface with a precision Straight Edge. I still think the great heat transfer has something to do with the 1/8" ID tubing's they use on it as they can't move as much water as larger sized tubings. How they do it, I don't know, but it was a pretty big shock to stick my hand in there after it had been running all day and feel no heat at the pump, lines, or the radiator. I didn't expect a lot of heat, but I did expect to feel something. It's just amazing how closely it follows it's design strategy when it's running. It does exactly what CoolIt says it will do, and a bit more! Just the fact that it cured the video card slot problem, made it worthwhile to me. The 630 runs great in Oxi, and there's detail we never knew existed before, in Russell's games. Temps are a non-issue. It idles at 29C and barely breaks 40 doing an Encode.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  20. theonejrs

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    Red_Maw,
    That's the whole point of the design. The rear fan get's mounted to the Rad, and you mount the whole thing by attaching the mounted fan to the case, just like a normal case fan, blowing out. The other fan mounts right to the opposite side of the Rad, blowing in. Since mounting the fans to the rad, effectively seals them against the Rad frame, there's no need for a shroud! It's an amazingly simple and efficient system, and the power consumption of the pump is an unbelievably low 1w! There's not an Air cooled CPU cooler made, that can do what the CoolIt Eco can do. It permanently removes that large block of heat that exists with every air cooled system, by transferring the CPU heat to the Rad, and the fans see it on it's way, very quickly, with no residual heat!

    I just had a couple of Dr. friends drop by to take a look at it, One Dr. has a TRU-E on a 965BE, and the other has a Tuniq 120 on a 955BE/C2, on the same motherboard as mine. One of the guys ordered his on my computer before they left. The other was putting together and order to Newegg, so he was going to wait until he got home, and do it all at once. At $74.99 Retail, it's a bargain! At $54.99 it was a steal! That price is good until the 15th! If someone needed more time, buy it from newegg, and use Check for payment. That will give you 30 days before newegg cancels the sale. Even though there's 30 days, Newegg still pulls the part from inventory, so when you do pay for it, it's shipped right away!

    Russ
     
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