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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. rick5446

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    I'm really impressed with the Samsung 2Tera Drives. I've never had anything run as Cool
    I bought 2 of them over the WDs
     
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  2. sammorris

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    As it stands right now, £100 is $147.95. However, since we pay 17.5% VAT on products as consumers (Businesses can claim VAT back), £100 only gets us something worth $125.90.

    Rick: Samsung temperature monitors work differently to other drives. Typically if a drive is 35C on the top, a WD or Seagate temperature monitor will tell you the drive is perhaps 36-37C. If a Samsung drive is 35C on the top, it may only show up as 24-25C. Frankly, I think the temperature monitors for them are false. Also though, 5400rpm eco drives run very cool compared to 7200rpm drives. If these are your first, they will seem very cool. In my old case without very good cooling, my WD 7200rpm drives ran around 47-48C, the Seagate 7200rpm at 59-61C, the 5400rpm WD Green drives at 38-39C.
     
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    I think my WD5000AAKB drive ran fairly warm (Upper 40C's) before I installed the 140mm exhaust fan in the top of my mid tower case. Now it stays around 35-38C. That exhaust helped EVERYTHING. If a case does not have a top exhaust fan, it should definitely be considered ;)
    Though now we're experiencing some pretty warm temperatures. I might see most of my temperatures begin increasing. I don't run my secondary PC very often anymore. It's kind of my BD converter. And since my experimentation has pretty much came to a halt for now, its really not needed. Though I occasionally start it up for either exercise or a disc to disc backup. It has a good reading drive, I trust to keep up with the burner drive.
     
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    Finally recieved OS dvd tossed it in got up to selecting where to install the OS but it says there are no drives recognized and that I need to install the drivers. Yet there was no driver cd with the HDD and the seagate website is saying the OS should have the drivers allready its a 1TB barracuda 7200.12. I figured I could download the driver to my EHD and then plug that into the desktop to get the driver on there if only I can find one. Or is it more likely that my Sata cable doesn't want to work. BIOS detected the drive so I'm more inclined towards mising driver. tia
     
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    Should already show up without drivers. Which OS is this?
     
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    Win 7
    Does it matter which SATA port the HDD is plugged into?
     
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    It shouldn't in theory, but I would always advise when installing an OS to use the main chipset S-ATA ports, and not any provided by an external controller such as a S-ATA 3 chipset or GSATA chipset. In the case of the 790XTA board this means you should use one of the main blue ports, and not the white ones.
     
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    was plugged into the lower blue one closest to whites tryin upper blue closest to whites now
     
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    Check if there's a jumper on the drive, a quick google throws up results about them coming with an incorrectly set jumper preventing them from being visible to windows setup.
     
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    I think sam may have just hit the nail on the head ;)

    I have used the G-sata ports, or Sata 6/Gbs ports. The differences are very minor. The only large difference, is reading SMART statistics on a hard drive. It isn't possible at present. At least with speedfan. There are probably other utilities out there, up to the challenge. Sata 6/Gbs is still pretty new. Its probably best to still expect minor/moderate bugs. But two of my storage drives are currently connected to them. There hasn't been any troubles xD
     
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    If theres supposed to be one there isn't assuming I'm looking at the right thing 4 tiny metal pins to the right of the SATA connection I see a jumper on my old HDD which isn't in the pc
    moving the SATA cable to upper blue also failed to recognize
    BIOS shows its channel2 master the ODD is channel0 master if that makes a difference
     
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    if your odd is sata, use that cable for the hdd. It could be the cable, esp if in bios it doesn't show up. Is the odd on a blue port aswell?
     
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    Yeah, S-ATA cables have a habit of being or going bad, that'd be my next suggestion.
     
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    I would like to thank everybody for their kind posts, PMs, IMs and emails. I've had a few people ask me why I said anything at all, and my answer is simple. It's time, and I feel I owe it to the many dedicated members here. I didn't feel that it was right to just vanish one day, and I've taken steps to be sure that AD is notified, when the time comes.

    Thank you everybody, from newbies to oldtimers. It's been a fun 5 years!

    Warmest Regards,
    Russ
     
  15. rick5446

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    sammorris : I'm not going by the Monitors. I'm sayin they R cooler, when I put my hand on a Seagate it's HOT, when I put my hand on a WD it's warm, when I put my hand on a Samsung it's cool. Now when I say cool I mean cool, no warmth (COOL)as in anything U touch. Now U tell me which is Truer Monitor or your hand
     
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    Is this your first 5400rpm drive?
     
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    the ODD is IDE and he BIOS recognizes the HDD I thought the 7200 meant its rpm is that just a model number?
    by first drive do you mean if PATA the master drive? then yes only drive in case atm
    if you mean first drive you've ever installed yep again or would be if dumb OS cd would recognize it
     
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    is rpm. see if can change in bios the sata to ide or raid to non-raid.
     
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    pretty sure its sata to ide atm but can check again the other 2 options were RAID and ATHI or something like that I don't know what the athi one does and I know I don't have more than 1 hdd atm so no way to raid though I thought it odd for it to say SATA to IDE I left it at that. Just went to best buy in hopes of getting a jumper alas they should be called the can't squad. I will try the other SATA cable that came with the box
    onboard SATA3 mode IDE
    sata3 controller enabled
    running win 7 setup again with new sata cable though my hopes aren't high
    no luck tried formatting c drive in browse for HDD driver window
    and it says Windows can's format C
    hey lookit that I'm a junior member now no longer a newbie woo sadly I still can't get the durn computer to behave so I'll have to disagree to the upgrade to junior
    check make sure connected and not read only I assume a jumper on the back would make it read only which there are none but I'll look at the online manual again to see if this assumption is correct
     
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    I wondered the very same thing. Why tell everyone in such a way? But it makes sense now. Good to see you so optimistic Russ. Death is the end of one adventure, and the beginning of another! I firmly believe that. It'll be tough to see you go old-timer. The scary part isn't where you'll go, but going :)
     
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